Stopover Rules Master thread

[Chaikel]

what about an OJ on a OW

You can fill it in like it is on the RT side

[AJK]

Ok, I believe I confused myself on this one.
I'm pretty sure when originally making the wiki I had intended for the "Oneway" part to be for stopovers on a oneway. Somewhere in the middle I mixed it up with "Are oneways allowed?". So lets try to revert it to what it meant originally, which means there are 3 possible entries:

NA: Program doesn't allow oneway bookings
No: Program allows oneways, but doesn't allow a stopover on a oneway
Yes: Stopovers allowed on oneway bookings

I don't understand.

What does the following mean?

"United:                                  Yes/1 stop + 1 OJ"

Does that mean "Yes, a stopover is allowed on a one way and both a stopover and OJ are allowed on a round trip?"

[Chaikel]

I don't understand.

What does the following mean?

"United:                                  Yes/1 stop + 1 OJ"

Does that mean "Yes, a stopover is allowed on a one way and both a stopover and OJ are allowed on a round trip?"

I believe it should say No/... As I don't believe UA allows a stop on a oneway. Probably something I messed up during the confusion. As for the RT you have it right. 1 stop and 1 OJ

[AJK]

Right. Just clarifying as UA as you mention (and I mention above) technically does not allow it on a OW.

[myb821]

I believe it should say No/... As I don't believe UA allows a stop on a oneway. Probably something I messed up during the confusion. As for the RT you have it right. 1 stop and 2 OJ

FTFY

[AJK]

Edited AA to reflect:

American Airlines:                  1 OJ and 1 stop at the North American gateway city/2 OJ and 2 stops (at the North American gateway city)

Edited UA to reflect:

United:                                  No*/1 stop + 2 OJ

* It is technically not allowed, but with enough HUCA and persistance it can be accomplished. YMMV.

[YankyDoodle]

Generally speaking can an OJ be replaced with a stopover? What constitutes an OJ? (Any airport other than the arrival airport or does it have to be a certain distance away?)

My understanding is that on United, you can do additional stopovers of under 24 hrs. How accurate is that, is that also available on AA?

Sorry for the noobish Q's!

[AJK]

No.

An OJ is when the origin of your first one way differs from the destination of the other.

On an int'l ticket, any stop that is 23:59 or less is considered a layover, not a stopover. That is true on all airlines AFAIK.

[moish]

are you sure aa allows an open jaw on a one way? i dont think so

[AJK]

are you sure aa allows an open jaw on a one way? i dont think so

Then you'd be mistaken...

All AA tickets are booked as OW's and, as such, have a built-in OJ, if you want.

[Side incomer]

Then you'd be mistaken...

All AA tickets are booked as OW's and, as such, have a built-in OJ, if you want.

He's referring to OJ on a OW which sounds doable per the wiki.

And in fact it's NOT doable, you can't fly JFK-LHR / DUS-TLV or SYD-HKG BKK-TLV without breaking up.

[moish]

Then you'd be mistaken...

All AA tickets are booked as OW's and, as such, have a built-in OJ, if you want.

lol

when writing that on aa oneways you get one stop plus an OJ you mean from origin to destination? thats too funny

i dont think you fully grasp the concept of an openjaw at least as it pertains to this wiki

[AJK]

He's referring to OJ on a OW which sounds doable per the wiki.

And in fact it's NOT doable, you can't fly JFK-LHR / DUS-TLV or SYD-HKG BKK-TLV without breaking up.

I didn't mean to imply you'd be able to do JFK-LHR / DUS-TLV -- simply that, because AA awards are all booked as OWs, each OW has a "built-in" OJ such that on a RT, you can have 2 OJs (a combination of each OW's single OJ).

If that's unclear, feel free to edit wiki.

[moish]

FTFY

since when does ua allow 2 oj's

[AJK]

A long time.

At least as long as they have viewed each RT as a combination of 2 OWs.

Just like AA.

See above.

[myb821]

since when does ua allow 2 oj's

Two open jaws are permitted per roundtrip award. For example, you can fly from Newark to London and return from Paris to Washington Dulles.

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx

[moish]

edited it out of aa

[moish]

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/types.aspx

thanks for that

i actually have a ticket syd-icn stop icn-lax destination jfk-tlv

it ticketed online, but everytime i call to make a change it doesnt price and they have to manually do it because they say its really a one way

but according to your link, it seems perfectly within the rules

[myb821]

thanks for that

i actually have a ticket syd-icn stop icn-lax destination jfk-tlv

it ticketed online, but everytime i call to make a change it doesnt price and they have to manually do it because they say its really a one way

but according to your link, it seems perfectly within the rules

are syd and tlv within the same zone bc they need to be to be an OJ I think

[moish]

are syd and tlv within the same zone bc they need to be to be an OJ I think

definitely not the same zone