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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2017, 01:55:35 PM »
yes obviously what he did is a factor.  I'm saying is he was good enough that would easily overlook it like the many other times they have overlooked much worse
Nobody is debating that he's much better than many of the backups signed.

But unless your name is Tom Brady, it's not worth risking boycotts and clubhouse chemistry over positions like that.
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2017, 03:01:49 PM »
It is interesting how the philosophy of the feminists is that the only way women are worth anything is on a masculine measuring scale.
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2017, 03:03:02 PM »
Nobody is debating that he's much better than many of the backups signed.

But unless your name is Tom Brady, it's not worth risking boycotts and clubhouse chemistry over positions like that.
Definitely not to be a backup. The advantages of a better backup do not come close to the risks of his divisiveness.
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2017, 05:20:55 PM »
Look one comment up...  :)
That's what you get for posting amp urls :P

Leave it to Google to penalize sites for not having descriptive urls and then shorten their urls to delete the description...
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2017, 05:21:18 PM »
Bottom line: Don't mess with the Google ;)
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2017, 07:18:41 PM »
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2017, 11:32:18 PM »
Bottom line: Don't mess with the Google ;)

This line pops up again and again, too frequently. There are serious societal concerns due to their outsized reach.
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2017, 07:53:45 PM »
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2017, 05:09:14 PM »
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That issue doesn't exist in Google. Have fun boycotting them.

Nobody is immune to boycott. In fact, the bigger the company, the more they have to lose. A boycott that picks up enough steam will scare shareholders.

In fact, it's pretty clear that they are on edge right now about this whole "scandal".  This guy can potentially win a huge lawsuit against them and make them look very, very bad. I would not be surprised if they end up settling with him out of court.

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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2017, 05:10:52 PM »
What is the basis for a lawsuit?
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2017, 05:17:49 PM »
What is the basis for a lawsuit?

I've been wondering that.

I'll let others give the real low down, but here's what I see.

Breach of Contract
Did have have a contract? Doesn't sound like it.

Discrimination
Is being conservative a protected class? Not at the federal level for sure.

NLRB Claim Retaliation
This one sounds like a joke. Obviously he was fired for disagreeing with them, and nothing to do with the NLRB claim.

California Employment Laws
Winner winner chicken dinner? Maybe. I dunno much about California employment laws.

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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2017, 06:08:34 PM »
My understanding is his case rests on the labor laws where it is illegal to prevent an employee from pointing out discriminatory practices at a work place which is what he did in parts of the memo.
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Re: "Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber"
« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2017, 06:15:09 PM »
Definitely not to be a backup. The advantages of a better backup do not come close to the risks of his divisiveness.
One might respond to you that divisiveness is in relation to surroundings so while in the NFL world kapernick is divisive. At Google and with many of the younger Google users the memo is divisive (See for example slate, salon and others).
Personally I think the argument is at its core about what are 'objective' values that cannot be violated whether it be patriotism or gender equality (as understood by the left).
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