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Nightmare On Iberia Airlines: Kids Forced Off Plane In Spain
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The Kids In Spain Are Left Off The Plane: A Nightmare With Iberia Airlines
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Author Topic: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?  (Read 88654 times)

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #240 on: September 05, 2017, 10:01:27 PM »
That has nothing to do with the technicalities of the story, and from the IB airport agents and CS responses, they seem to only care about the technicalities.
Why concede to their terms? On their terms they broke no law and only need to give legal compensation. Is the whole thing for Israeli compensation over EU?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #241 on: September 05, 2017, 10:05:41 PM »
Why concede to their terms? On their terms they broke no law and only need to give legal compensation. Is the whole thing for Israeli compensation over EU?
They dont care about saving face. In some European cultures being "correct" is all that matters. Common sense plays no part in the equation. As long as the letter of the law was followed theyre good.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #242 on: September 05, 2017, 10:06:18 PM »
Why concede to their terms? On their terms they broke no law and only need to give legal compensation. Is the whole thing for Israeli compensation over EU?
According to current market value:
EU compensation = $715 USD (600EUR)
IL compensation = $840 USD (3000NIS).

This obviously (for Dan, or any media to get involved) has to be about (more then $400 ($125 x3)) the bigger picture. Raising awareness and trying to get airlines to reconsider policies or retraining agents.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #243 on: September 05, 2017, 10:07:20 PM »
I disagree. I feel its very good that the common decency is playing a role here.
People have to understand that it is 'the unwritten law' to have common sense and to be decent. Especially to kids.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #244 on: September 05, 2017, 10:08:47 PM »
They dont care about saving face. In some European cultures being "correct" is all that matters. Common sense plays no part in the equation. As long as the letter of the law was followed theyre good.
Then this whole thing is a waste of time
According to current market value:
EU compensation = $715 USD (600EUR)
IL compensation = $840 USD (3000NIS).

This obviously (for Dan, or any media to get involved) has to be about (more then $400 ($125 x3)) the bigger picture. Raising awareness and trying to get airlines to reconsider policies or retraining agents.
In that equation availability of kosher food makes a difference.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #246 on: September 05, 2017, 10:12:01 PM »
Then this whole thing is a waste of time
Why?
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #247 on: September 05, 2017, 10:12:18 PM »
No clickbait title?
Maybe we can add 'A fair lady get her 3 kids thrown of a plane in spain'

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #248 on: September 05, 2017, 10:12:49 PM »
What about the fact they denied the compensation until you brought it up?

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #249 on: September 05, 2017, 10:13:10 PM »
Why?
Because the most you can get by law is IL comp
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #250 on: September 05, 2017, 10:13:54 PM »
Because the most you can get by law is IL comp
I'm not focusing on the comp issue. I've clarified that a bit now.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #251 on: September 05, 2017, 10:14:05 PM »
Thoughts?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/airline-news/iberia-forces-3-kids-flying-alone-miami-tel-aviv-off-plane-spain/

Not on home page yet, please don't share the link.
When Ms. Addi asked the gate agent to put (aside) the law aside

but were told they couldn’t receive any a check for compensation

Maybe some bold red letters at the end?

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #252 on: September 05, 2017, 10:14:52 PM »
I'm not focusing on the comp issue.
So what else does the law require them to do now?
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #253 on: September 05, 2017, 10:16:55 PM »
I would say a big thing that should be noted to the world is that contrary to what people said about FT. Airlines arent doing us a favor. They can't just abuse their passengers.
Isnt that the first thing about business relations. Treat your customers with respect. You need them!
Airlines seem to be getting away with murder these days

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #254 on: September 05, 2017, 10:18:14 PM »
Side Point: How could minors check into a hotel?
Maybe there is some conspiracy here.  :P Iberia partners with hotel to bump off unknowing minors.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2017, 10:22:00 PM by Zevi16 »

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #255 on: September 05, 2017, 10:28:21 PM »
Reads well,  but missing the title we so carefully crafted

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #256 on: September 05, 2017, 10:28:59 PM »
Maybe point out, as Ms. Addi said, if they were not old enough to receive a check, they certainly weren't old enough to be bumped

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #257 on: September 05, 2017, 10:30:15 PM »
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who informed them that they were being involuntarily bumped off of the flight as they were the last to checkin.
check in is 2 words
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #258 on: September 05, 2017, 10:33:05 PM »
Thoughts?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/airline-news/iberia-forces-3-kids-flying-alone-miami-tel-aviv-off-plane-spain/

Not on home page yet, please don't share the link.
While it raises all the issues I felt that it didn't bring enough outrage to the fact that they simply bumped the kids I'm a foreign City for hours.

perhaps add the hotel pic.

Lastly I think that a tweet along with pic and headline will be tool to become viral

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #259 on: September 05, 2017, 10:33:21 PM »
How about the United story should be pushed in to the middle or towards the end  and instead start with the story right away?