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Nightmare On Iberia Airlines: Kids Forced Off Plane In Spain
36 (59%)
The Kids In Spain Are Left Off The Plane: A Nightmare With Iberia Airlines
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Total Members Voted: 61

Author Topic: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?  (Read 86487 times)

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #380 on: September 06, 2017, 10:21:03 AM »
The play on words can go a long way in getting the story picked up outside DDF
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #381 on: September 06, 2017, 10:28:17 AM »
3 American Kids Forced Off Plane In Foreign Country By Iberia Airlines!!!

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #382 on: September 06, 2017, 10:30:39 AM »
I like "Kids Denied Boarding in Spain"
Like, true and to the point
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #383 on: September 06, 2017, 10:33:17 AM »
Like, true and to the point
Not catchy

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #384 on: September 06, 2017, 10:53:31 AM »
Sheesh! I'm surprised by the push-back to the catchy title. I thought the DDF community was a little more savvy about the "world out there".
A bland title like "three children in Madrid were legally but not wisely denied boarding to a flight due to overbooking" will never catch interest. The whole point of the title is to lure you into reading the rest of the article!

Dan, you need to write the title with your target audience in mind and in this case your target is not yankel from boro-park. Your target audience are the writers from major news and social media websites that are supposed to "pick up" the story and run with it. That's way you should use a title that those people will click on even if your regular audience don't get it and would prefer something more bland or haimesh.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #385 on: September 06, 2017, 11:34:15 AM »
Wake me up when ya'll can come to a consensus on a title.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #386 on: September 06, 2017, 11:36:35 AM »
Dan, IB has still not responded to your follow-up questions?
Bunch of garbage. Not sure it's even worth updating the article for.






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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #387 on: September 06, 2017, 11:36:52 AM »
Wake me up when ya'll can come to a consensus on a title.
Both in poll are fine but I still think Forced off the plane is misleading.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #388 on: September 06, 2017, 11:37:49 AM »
Both in poll are fine but I still think Forced off the plane is misleading.
Left is such a passive word though.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #389 on: September 06, 2017, 11:41:49 AM »
Wake me up when ya'll can come to a consensus on a title.


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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #390 on: September 06, 2017, 11:43:56 AM »
Sheesh! I'm surprised by the push-back to the catchy title. I thought the DDF community was a little more savvy about the "world out there".
A bland title like "three children in Madrid were legally but not wisely denied boarding to a flight due to overbooking" will never catch interest. The whole point of the title is to lure you into reading the rest of the article!

Dan, you need to write the title with your target audience in mind and in this case your target is not yankel from boro-park. Your target audience are the writers from major news and social media websites that are supposed to "pick up" the story and run with it. That's way you should use a title that those people will click on even if your regular audience don't get it and would prefer something more bland or haimesh.

Hear hear!

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #391 on: September 06, 2017, 11:45:28 AM »
Wait, we're still talking about this? This hasn't been published yet?

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #392 on: September 06, 2017, 11:50:41 AM »
Clickbait works. That is why you see it all over the place.
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #393 on: September 06, 2017, 11:56:09 AM »
Wait, we're still talking about this? This hasn't been published yet?

Classic case of too many cooks and the law diminishing returns.
Clickbait works. That is why you see it all over the place.
If ya'll have opinions on the title then post what you would do.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #394 on: September 06, 2017, 11:57:10 AM »
Wake me up when ya'll can come to a consensus on a title.
In all seriousness, I'm very surprised at you. Pick a title and run. Crowd sourcing has its benefits, but to a point. Trust your gut, it's done you well 'till now.

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #395 on: September 06, 2017, 11:57:57 AM »
Bunch of garbage. Not sure it's even worth updating the article for.






What did you write back to them? How in the world can they keep going on about them flying without an adult when they a) allowed them to board in MIA and b) eventually allowed them to continue to TLV on the next flight? What does them being booked as adults have to do with anything in the first place?

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #396 on: September 06, 2017, 11:59:25 AM »
Bunch of garbage. Not sure it's even worth updating the article for.






They still don't bother addressing the part about bumping minors  ::)
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #397 on: September 06, 2017, 12:04:15 PM »
What did you write back to them? How in the world can they keep going on about them flying without an adult when they a) allowed them to board in MIA and b) eventually allowed them to continue to TLV on the next flight? What does them being booked as adults have to do with anything in the first place?
I'm reading their response as explaining why there were no flags in their system against bumping them. Based on the way the data was entered, it looked like they were a normal couple with a child getting bump.

Still doesn't explain why a person with eyes wouldn't realize that it's a bad idea to bump this "couple".
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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #398 on: September 06, 2017, 12:07:09 PM »
Use the catchy title and POST THE DAMN THING ALREADY!!!

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Re: Has This Ever Happened To You With IBeria Airlines-Minors Bumped?
« Reply #399 on: September 06, 2017, 12:11:23 PM »
I'm reading their response as explaining why there were no flags in their system against bumping them. Based on the way the data was entered, it looked like they were a normal couple with a child getting bump.

Still doesn't explain why a person with eyes wouldn't realize that it's a bad idea to bump this "couple".
No, the agent in MAD was told by the mother they are minors. And the agents SAW they are minors. How much more clear could one be? Maybe they wanted to check שתי שערות?
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