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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2017, 10:42:01 PM »
If not you get them to a place with a second floor. Or don't run such a facility.
You are being ridiculous. You are saying there should never be one floor nursing homes? You just created a tremendous nursing home shortage in this country.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2017, 10:43:48 PM »
You are being ridiculous. You are saying there should never be one floor nursing homes? You just created a tremendous nursing home shortage in this country.
I never said that. I said if there's no second floor you move them out before the monster storm arrives. Not just leave them there & have the staff abandon them.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2017, 10:44:23 PM »
I never said that. I said if there's no second floor you move them out before the monster storm arrives. Not just leave them there & have the staff abandon them.
And your second sentence?

The logistics of transporting the patients is also an issue. They need professionals to do the evacuation. They may not be available if they are focusing on other facilities.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2017, 10:46:23 PM »
And your second sentence?
That if the people in charge can't handle the responsibilities that come along with caring for these people's lives then they shouldn't be in this business. Coprendo ?

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2017, 10:47:11 PM »
I never said that. I said if there's no second floor you move them out before the monster storm arrives. Not just leave them there & have the staff abandon them.
There were plenty of facilities during Sandy that had the 2nd floor flooded to.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2017, 10:48:00 PM »
That if the people in charge can't handle the responsibilities that come along with caring for these people's lives then they shouldn't be in this business. Coprendo ?
You obviously have no clue in this parsha. Stop before you sound even more foolish.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2017, 10:49:32 PM »
You obviously have no clue in this parsha. Stop before you sound even more foolish.
Would you say this had the waters ch"v gone a few feet higher ?

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2017, 10:50:18 PM »
You obviously have no clue in this parsha. Stop before you sound even more foolish.
The problem is there is a disconnect between those that own these facilities and those that run them.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2017, 10:52:52 PM »
Would you say this had the waters ch"v gone a few feet higher ?
I don't know the details in Texas or is that specific facility but based on what went on here in 2012, there is definitely plenty of room to say yes.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2017, 10:55:40 PM »
Would you say this had the waters ch"v gone a few feet higher ?
You have no idea about what evacuation attempts were made or if they were even thought to be needed before the storm. The staff lb day have followed all instructions given to them by the various authorities. You are making many assumptions and judging with little knowledge of the facts.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2017, 10:56:43 PM »
The problem is there is a disconnect between those that own these facilities and those that run them.
Could be. I'm not at all familiar with how things are down there. I do know that in my company there is no such disconnect whatsoever (although we're relatively a small company).
You'd be very surprised the oversight that the dozens of government agencies have over nursing homes. Could be 30-40 years ago it was different but not now.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2017, 10:58:28 PM »
Is there a second floor in that facility?
Probably not, Texas has lots of space. Numerous wings per facility.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2017, 10:58:39 PM »
One important thing is that often, shelter-in-place is the best option (and may be even required for a non-critical unit) when there is a massive, widespead disaster like this.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2017, 11:01:37 PM »
But if there was in fact negligence, there will be plenty of coverage. 1) the government and regulatory like to show people that they take these things seriously (and justify their jobs) so they put out plenty of press releases 2) attorney will use the press to put more pressure on the owners when suing.
As they say, stay tuned!

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2017, 11:03:38 PM »
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