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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2017, 10:11:49 PM »
Reading that majority in the area don't have flood insurance.
even so, natural disaster may not be covered regardless

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2017, 10:29:48 PM »
even so, natural disaster may not be covered regardless
If you have flood insurance it is covered at least my house is.  :)
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2017, 10:33:47 PM »
Whoever runs that place should be in prison.
Do you have experience evacuating a SNF during a disaster like this? I do and it's not so simple. I can't say how it's down there in Texas but here in NYC/Nassau durning Sandy, there were dozens of nursing homes that were in zone 1 (or may have been 5. They changed it right afterwards) and  thousands of patients had to be evacuated. In short the government took over all ambulances (including private) so any contracts went out the window.
Next there were major staff shortages. This was due to 1) many healthcare workers work in two facilities and 2) employees also have to make sure that their families are safe 3) mass transit shut down.
Next there was mass evacuation from areas like the Rockaways (where the are about 20 nursing homes), Seagate, Coney island, etc. The roads were gridlock like I've never seen before.
And then there are those that have kedima like hospital's (several were evacuated), critical patients like ventalator dependant, and so on. Based on the pic, it looks like the residents in that home were quite stable (u won't find any of my vent patients in a wheelchair).
I could go on but I think you get my point.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2017, 10:35:59 PM »
Just move them to a second floor. They could come down with gd-knows-what sitting in all that water. They shouldn't be treated worse then pets.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2017, 10:38:04 PM »
Just move them to a second floor. They could come down with gd-knows-what sitting in all that water. They shouldn't be treated worse then pets.
Is there a second floor in that facility?
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2017, 10:39:04 PM »
Just move them to a second floor. They could come down with gd-knows-what sitting in all that water. They shouldn't be treated worse then pets.
Who said there's a 2nd floor? Out on the island there are 1 and 2 floor facilities. (And who says it wasn't in the 2nd floor?). So I wouldn't be surprised if a small 25 bed place like this is similar.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2017, 10:39:59 PM »
Is there a second floor in that facility?
If not you get them to a place with a second floor. Or don't run such a facility.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2017, 10:42:01 PM »
If not you get them to a place with a second floor. Or don't run such a facility.
You are being ridiculous. You are saying there should never be one floor nursing homes? You just created a tremendous nursing home shortage in this country.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2017, 10:43:48 PM »
You are being ridiculous. You are saying there should never be one floor nursing homes? You just created a tremendous nursing home shortage in this country.
I never said that. I said if there's no second floor you move them out before the monster storm arrives. Not just leave them there & have the staff abandon them.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2017, 10:44:23 PM »
I never said that. I said if there's no second floor you move them out before the monster storm arrives. Not just leave them there & have the staff abandon them.
And your second sentence?

The logistics of transporting the patients is also an issue. They need professionals to do the evacuation. They may not be available if they are focusing on other facilities.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2017, 10:46:23 PM »
And your second sentence?
That if the people in charge can't handle the responsibilities that come along with caring for these people's lives then they shouldn't be in this business. Coprendo ?

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2017, 10:47:11 PM »
I never said that. I said if there's no second floor you move them out before the monster storm arrives. Not just leave them there & have the staff abandon them.
There were plenty of facilities during Sandy that had the 2nd floor flooded to.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2017, 10:48:00 PM »
That if the people in charge can't handle the responsibilities that come along with caring for these people's lives then they shouldn't be in this business. Coprendo ?
You obviously have no clue in this parsha. Stop before you sound even more foolish.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2017, 10:49:32 PM »
You obviously have no clue in this parsha. Stop before you sound even more foolish.
Would you say this had the waters ch"v gone a few feet higher ?

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2017, 10:50:18 PM »
You obviously have no clue in this parsha. Stop before you sound even more foolish.
The problem is there is a disconnect between those that own these facilities and those that run them.
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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2017, 10:52:52 PM »
Would you say this had the waters ch"v gone a few feet higher ?
I don't know the details in Texas or is that specific facility but based on what went on here in 2012, there is definitely plenty of room to say yes.

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Re: Hurricane Harvey
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2017, 10:55:40 PM »
Would you say this had the waters ch"v gone a few feet higher ?
You have no idea about what evacuation attempts were made or if they were even thought to be needed before the storm. The staff lb day have followed all instructions given to them by the various authorities. You are making many assumptions and judging with little knowledge of the facts.
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