Author Topic: OU-D, Dairy or Dairy equipment (Read 42694 times)

AsherO · « **Reply #40 on:** June 24, 2011, 12:09:28 PM »

Quote from: kugelfresser on June 24, 2011, 12:09:10 PM

Anyother cereal/products that i should ask about?

Why don't they list it all online? Hmmm.

Dan · « **Reply #41 on:** June 24, 2011, 12:10:17 PM »

Quote from: kugelfresser on June 24, 2011, 12:08:17 PM

UPDATE:

Captain Crunch is labeled OUD, but in fact, its true status, at the present time, is DE (Dairy Equipment).

Have a good Shabbos,

The Web(be) Rebbe
Orthodox Union Kashruth Division

Visit us online at: www.oukosher.org

It's COR Parve in Canada. As are Quaker cereals, French Toast Crunch and Aunt Jemimah Pancake Mix.
What's with all the DE stuff. Is it that hard to make it parve and appeal to millions of people with lactose allergies (and us Chabad folk.)

dd321 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 24, 2011, 12:16:19 PM »

Quote from: Dan on June 24, 2011, 12:10:17 PM

It's COR Parve in Canada. As are Quaker cereals, French Toast Crunch and Aunt Jemimah Pancake Mix.
What's with all the DE stuff. Is it that hard to make it parve and appeal to millions of people with lactose allergies (and us Chabad folk.)

"Some kashrus agencies use a DE symbol, but the OU has chosen not to use a DE designation because it is felt it may be confusing to the kosher consumer. In addition, to be a true DE product, the equipment must be properly cleaned of residue after dairy production, and that level of cleanliness is sometimes difficult to maintain and guarantee.

Please note that it is possible that the manufacturer will reformulate this product and add a true dairy ingredient. You will not be able to know this, since the OUD kosher symbol will remain the same. We recommend that you call our office every 3 months to reconfirm the DE status of this product."
and i also read somewhere that they had a allergy problem so to be safe they just label it de

dd321 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 24, 2011, 12:24:39 PM »

UPDATE:

General Mills Honey Nut Clusters and General Mills Raisin nut bran are currently DE (Dairy Equipment).

Sincerely,

The Web(be) Rebbe
Orthodox Union Kashruth Division

Visit us online at: www.oukosher.org

dd321 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 24, 2011, 12:28:48 PM »

UPDATE:
Q: How about snyders pretzels that don't say contains dairy in ingredients but still bears a ou-d

A:Snyder's of Hanover Plain Pretzels are currently DE (Dairy Equipment).

dd321 · « **Reply #45 on:** June 24, 2011, 12:36:11 PM »

Basically what it seems that if product doesnt list milk in ingreidents its just dairy equipment

AsherO · « **Reply #46 on:** June 24, 2011, 03:06:26 PM »

Quote from: kugelfresser on June 24, 2011, 12:36:11 PM

Basically what it seems that if product doesnt list milk in ingreidents its just dairy equipment

I would certainly not say that. It could have a lactose derivative with a name you wouldn't recognize.

dd321 · « **Reply #47 on:** June 24, 2011, 04:08:19 PM »

they would have to clear for ppl w allergies

bosoxfan · « **Reply #48 on:** June 24, 2011, 04:25:32 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on June 24, 2011, 03:06:26 PM

I would certainly not say that. It could have a lactose derivative with a name you wouldn't recognize.

you most certainly can. If there's anything Dairy based in it to qualify for allergy purposes they will mention it. Otherwise it's completely botul. as told to me by a rav hamachshir at the OU

jack12 · « **Reply #49 on:** June 24, 2011, 07:00:02 PM »

Quote from: bosoxfan on June 24, 2011, 04:25:32 PM

you most certainly can. If there's anything Dairy based in it to qualify for allergy purposes they will mention it. Otherwise it's completely botul. as told to me by a rav hamachshir at the OU

Sounds weird. I called the OU regarding Ritz Crackers. If I remember correctly, it doesn't say anything in the allergy info about containing milk. However, the OU said that its DE because the 'natural flavors' listed in the ingredients contain milk.

So apparently, ingredients/allergy info can not be used to determine whether its DE or D.

elikay · « **Reply #50 on:** June 24, 2011, 07:21:25 PM »

Quote from: jack12 on June 24, 2011, 07:00:02 PM

Sounds weird. I called the OU regarding Ritz Crackers. If I remember correctly, it doesn't say anything in the allergy info about containing milk. However, the OU said that its DE because the 'natural flavors' listed in the ingredients contain milk.

So apparently, ingredients/allergy info can not be used to determine whether its DE or D.

DE does not contain dairy so it wouldn't be listed on the ingredients.

jack12 · « **Reply #51 on:** June 26, 2011, 02:13:23 AM »

Quote from: elikay on June 24, 2011, 07:21:25 PM

DE does not contain dairy so it wouldn't be listed on the ingredients.

Quote from: elikay on June 24, 2011, 07:21:25 PM

DE does not contain dairy so it wouldn't be listed on the ingredients.

Sorry. Made a mistake. What I meant to write is:

Sounds weird. I called the OU regarding Ritz Crackers. If I remember
correctly, it doesn't say anything in the allergy info about containing
milk. However, the OU said that its DAIRY because the 'natural flavors'
listed in the ingredients contain milk.

So apparently, ingredients/allergy info can not be used to determine
whether its DE or D.

bosoxfan · « **Reply #52 on:** June 26, 2011, 04:17:16 PM »

Just because something has natural dairy flavors, does not mean it's cholov stam, it may be botul b'roiv

Chaikel · « **Reply #53 on:** June 26, 2011, 04:27:42 PM »

Quote from: bosoxfan on June 26, 2011, 04:17:16 PM

Just because something has natural dairy flavors, does not mean it's cholov stam, it may be botul b'roiv

I'm assuming you mean 60

bosoxfan · « **Reply #54 on:** June 26, 2011, 04:45:23 PM »

he (Rov hamachshir) said b'rov, he may have very well meant shishim

tripper · « **Reply #55 on:** June 26, 2011, 10:54:25 PM »

Haggan Daz strawberry Sorbet is DE as per webbbe rebbe.
You can absolutely not rely on ingredient panels to verify something is DE. Water can be Dairy if it is distilled from a dairy source. BTW, there are products like that, since nothing gets wasted in production plants, water included.

Dan · « **Reply #56 on:** June 26, 2011, 11:19:06 PM »

I've actually seen water with an OU-D before.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #57 on:** March 06, 2014, 01:55:47 PM »

Bringing this topic back to light since it's obviously time-bound. Has anyone heard anything about Oreos recently? Still really DE and I can still have my Oreo cream pie on Shabbos? (Q came to mind - can you use a fleishig utensil to serve the pie?)

ushdadude · « **Reply #58 on:** March 06, 2014, 04:37:08 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on March 06, 2014, 01:55:47 PM

Bringing this topic back to light since it's obviously time-bound. Has anyone heard anything about Oreos recently? Still really DE and I can still have my Oreo cream pie on Shabbos? (Q came to mind - can you use a fleishig utensil to serve the pie?)

Last I checked (12/17/12) oreos were OU-DE. I check the allergy warning periodically to confirm that it doesn't have milk.

Dr Moose · « **Reply #59 on:** March 06, 2014, 04:46:04 PM »

I personaly asked Rabbi Genack, he said i could eat my oreos crumbled on top of my cholent (not even DE)