Author Topic: Hurricane Irma  (Read 54480 times)

Offline A3

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 3449
  • Total likes: 95
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #100 on: September 08, 2017, 03:14:10 AM »

Offline cozmohoot

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 4440
  • Total likes: 95
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #101 on: September 08, 2017, 07:40:43 AM »
Finally in the air and out of Miami. This will be a westbound red eye.
My folks have a flight out of pbi soon. Hope it's smooth for them

Offline sky121

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 11513
  • Total likes: 168
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 12
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #102 on: September 08, 2017, 09:32:03 AM »
Sad to say but it seems tragedy is the only thing that brings the country together.
It's always like that.

I always notice that in 'war time' in Israel everyone is so much nicer to each other and all the different sects of Jews stop fighting and start helping each other out.

"Not all who wander are lost"

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17397
  • Total likes: 14334
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #103 on: September 08, 2017, 11:49:49 AM »
My BIL is getting confused here

Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #104 on: September 08, 2017, 11:57:44 AM »
Will you be able to listen to reports during Shabbos? I would think this qualifies as a life or death situation, no?
I just found a new supply of forks!

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 17397
  • Total likes: 14334
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #105 on: September 08, 2017, 12:09:56 PM »
Will you be able to listen to reports during Shabbos? I would think this qualifies as a life or death situation, no?
http://matzav.com/watch-halachic-ramifications-of-severe-weather-challenges-on-shabbos-listening-to-radio/
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline zow

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 2943
  • Total likes: 135
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: LAX
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2017, 12:17:15 PM »
.

At least one of the individuals listed here is a DDFer (who has helped me in the past, though not in the same way the evacuees need help this Shabbos!).  Kol Hacavod to him/them and all those who are giving of themselves.

Online jj1000

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 13470
  • Total likes: 6095
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 29367
    • View Profile
  • Location: The value of a forum such as this one is not in that one can post a question and receive an answer, but in that the question has most likely been asked before, and the answer is available to him that will but only use the search function.
  • Programs: 1. Search on google. 2. Search in the right board of DDF with a general word or two. 3. Read the wiki. 4. Read the thread. 5. Ask away.
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2017, 12:18:04 PM »
Will you be able to listen to reports during Shabbos? I would think this qualifies as a life or death situation, no?
Many things like this, in short leave a radio on:

Rabbi Marlow sent out the following email: SHABBOS PROTOCOLS IN CASE OF A HURRICANE OR OTHER DISASTERS

(As developed by Rabbi Kenneth Brander and edited by Rabbi Yossi Marlow)

If a hurricane or  severe dangerous winds are on Shabbos, stay home. 

Assume no Eruv

• Carrying permitted for life/limb threatening situations.

• Carrying permitted for individuals who need medical attention

without which a person's functionality is compromised, even for a

bed-ridden headache. In this case carrying should be done, if

possible, in an irregular fashion (i.e. carrying medicine in one’s

belt or shoe).

• Carrying permitted to allow a baby, infirm senior, someone with

psychological challenges, or a child/adult traumatized by the

event to function without compromise. In this case, carrying

should be done, if possible, in an irregular fashion.

 

Use of Candles, Glowsticks & Flashlights

• Hang/place lit flashlights with fresh batteries in key locations

before Shabbos and Yom Tov.

• It is recommended to use LED flashlights over incandescent

flashlights because they will last longer. Some claim to even last

48 hours.

• Light yahrzeit or hurricane candles before Shabbos and place

them in designated locations.

• Be careful about using candles in an area that might cause a fire.

• Glowsticks, if possible, they should be opened before Shabbos.

• A point of consideration: Open glow sticks prior to Shabbos and

then freeze them. This decelerates the chemical reaction allowing

them to last longer (when removed from the freezer).

• In a state of darkness and there are no prepared glow sticks, it

would certainly be permitted to ask a Gentile to crack the glow

stick and, when that option is not available, a Jew him/herself

would be permitted to do so to insure that no trauma nor any

other physical danger adversely affect any individual.

If Flashlight/Candle goes out:

• When necessary (to take care of children, to eat etc...) and there

is no other light, a Gentile can relight or change batteries.

• If not having the light may create a life threatening situation, one

may do so oneself.

Moving a Flashlight is permitted.

Moving Candles is permitted in the following situations:

• For any medical concerns no matter how slight.

• For the comfort and welfare of seniors and children under eight

(or above eight years old when child is traumatized by the event).

 

 Radio

• A radio should be left on in a side room.

• A streaming radio app set up before Shabbos can also

be used in a side room (this might not be such a good suggestion

as a lost internet connection may affect the app)

• The radio should only be used to listen to the news

• Channel should not be changed.
See my 5 step program to your left <--

(Real signature under my location)

Online jj1000

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 13470
  • Total likes: 6095
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 29367
    • View Profile
  • Location: The value of a forum such as this one is not in that one can post a question and receive an answer, but in that the question has most likely been asked before, and the answer is available to him that will but only use the search function.
  • Programs: 1. Search on google. 2. Search in the right board of DDF with a general word or two. 3. Read the wiki. 4. Read the thread. 5. Ask away.
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2017, 12:18:35 PM »
As of 11am storm moved to the west coast of FL.
See my 5 step program to your left <--

(Real signature under my location)

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2017, 12:19:28 PM »
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline Dawie

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 1611
  • Total likes: 491
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: KBLM
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #110 on: September 08, 2017, 12:20:37 PM »

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2017, 12:21:18 PM »
Radio

• A radio should be left on in a side room.

• A streaming radio app set up before Shabbos can also

be used in a side room (this might not be such a good suggestion

as a lost internet connection may affect the app)

• The radio should only be used to listen to the news

• Channel should not be changed.
Nice!
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2017, 12:22:38 PM »
so now CM of all people turns this thread into a Halachik discussion... it must be Friday ::)
You learn by asking questions. My question was answered so no need for further discussion.  ;)
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline CS1

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 3651
  • Total likes: 49
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
    • California Gourmet Premium Chocolate
  • Location: United States
  • Programs: DDSLA, DDSCLE, Bonvoy Titanium Feb 2025
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #113 on: September 08, 2017, 12:47:24 PM »
Will you be able to listen to reports during Shabbos? I would think this qualifies as a life or death situation, no?
people who are in the actual path of the storm can leave their radios on in a certain room and check for updates. Obviously if a situation arises, then they need to make phone calls, go to the hospital, or any life or death situation they have the Mitzvah/obligation to actually do that 'melacha/work' to save their lives and to drive, cook, etc..., and to do this also to save the lives of others. Doctors also have this obligation.

Basically, Plan A is to do as much as possible in advance to be able to be in a safe location and to keep Shabat as best as possible.
Plan B is that if an emergency arises, then it's a mitzvah to do whatever it takes to save lives, regardless of the Shabbat laws.
California Gourmet Belgian Nut-Free Chocolate Chips https://bit.ly/CaliforniaGourmetDirect

Offline ckmk47

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Aug 2012
  • Posts: 7961
  • Total likes: 1044
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
  • Location: brooklyn
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #114 on: September 08, 2017, 01:14:09 PM »
B"H it's set to hit Sunday rather than Shabbos.  So the strongest hurricane conditions won't be starting yet.
My favorite cause: cssy.org

Offline elit

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 1349
  • Total likes: 119
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #115 on: September 08, 2017, 01:50:50 PM »
As of 11am storm moved to the west coast of FL.
moved slightly west which means there's no chance of it missing fl still direct hit on Miami and the storm surge is on the east side of the hurricane so the east coast will get the worse flooding

Offline whYME

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 3213
  • Total likes: 1241
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #116 on: September 08, 2017, 02:40:17 PM »
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast

Quote
Hurricane Irma, a potentially catastrophic Category 4 hurricane, is now hammering parts of the Bahamas and Cuba, and will turn its fury on Florida in what is likely to be the state's strongest hurricane strike since Charley 13 years ago.
I thought it's supposed to be like the worst hurricane ever??

Online jj1000

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 13470
  • Total likes: 6095
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 29367
    • View Profile
  • Location: The value of a forum such as this one is not in that one can post a question and receive an answer, but in that the question has most likely been asked before, and the answer is available to him that will but only use the search function.
  • Programs: 1. Search on google. 2. Search in the right board of DDF with a general word or two. 3. Read the wiki. 4. Read the thread. 5. Ask away.
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #117 on: September 08, 2017, 02:47:05 PM »
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast
I thought it's supposed to be like the worst hurricane ever??
It was downgraded to a cat 4. If it stayed what it was 2 days ago it would have been, also it keeps shifting west now. May go to the gulf and no even make total landfall in FL.
See my 5 step program to your left <--

(Real signature under my location)

Offline A3

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 3449
  • Total likes: 95
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #118 on: September 08, 2017, 04:11:32 PM »
Made it to MEM 23 hours.

Offline stooges44

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 6454
  • Total likes: 2746
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 269
    • View Profile
Re: Hurricane Irma
« Reply #119 on: September 08, 2017, 04:39:01 PM »
Hatzalah of South Florida is urging... no actually BEGGING anyone that has remained or have loved ones, in our South Florida Communities to please take this most important moment and fill out this form...
https://goo.gl/forms/FVHqA1WJ5oqkpaUF2

We are requesting, ONLY THOSE THAT ARE IN or that you have an (Elderly) LOVED ONE REMAINING IN SOUTH FLORIDA - Please fill out all of the * details in order to assist us in dealing with any POST STORM (possible Search & Recovery)  EFFORTS that may be required.

If it's not free shipping it's not worth it.