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Today is Thursday, Sept 14. If I say "Next Wednesday" what day would you think I am referring to?

Wednesday, Sep 20
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Wednesday, Sep 27
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2017, 05:34:18 PM »
It depends what the meaning of is is.
There you have it in a nutshell. When you get caught you come up with stupid stuff.
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2017, 05:40:15 PM »
Why is it when we are talking about days of the week it is the second one but with years it is the NEXT one?

If I say on 12/31/17 see you next year that means 2018 not 2019!!!  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2017, 05:44:26 PM »
There you have it in a nutshell. When you get caught you come up with stupid stuff.
What did I get caught with?
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2017, 05:45:29 PM »
What did I get caught with?
Not you, Bill. Talk about feeling guilty.
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2017, 05:50:03 PM »
There you have it in a nutshell. When you get caught you come up with stupid stuff.

What did I get caught with?
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2017, 05:51:31 PM »
What did I get caught with?
With being wrong.

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #81 on: September 14, 2017, 05:52:05 PM »
Why is it when we are talking about days of the week it is the second one but with years it is the NEXT one?

If I say on 12/31/17 see you next year that means 2018 not 2019!!!  >:( >:( >:(
Okay. now that we know which of the 2 you are disagreeing about it seems that most here are considering "next Wed" to mean next week Wed and are considering each week separately. Hence the difference between which week you are in. I think this is the way most people speak. This would also be a difference between days and this case.

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #82 on: September 14, 2017, 05:53:32 PM »
Do you or anyone else think that "next Friday" means tomorrow?

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #83 on: September 14, 2017, 05:57:20 PM »
Why is it when we are talking about days of the week it is the second one but with years it is the NEXT one?

If I say on 12/31/17 see you next year that means 2018 not 2019!!!  >:( >:( >:(

I gave you an example of where "next" changes based on context, right?

With days, the differing context is that we use "this Wednesday" as well as "next Wednesday". Based on the fact that THIS Wednesday is actually NEXT week, that changes things.

It's quite simple.
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2017, 05:58:32 PM »
What did I get caught with?
This was the question:
Today is Thursday, Sept 14. If I say "Next Wednesday" what day would you think I am referring to:
Then you started with the "this" and "the".

What happened to 1+1=3? We need him back because he would agree with you.  :)
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2017, 05:59:09 PM »
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No, that's THIS Friday, meaning NEXT Friday is next week.
On Shabbos, this Friday will mean next week's Friday, meaning next Friday is the week after.
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2017, 06:06:16 PM »
I gave you an example of where "next" changes based on context, right?
What you are trying to do is pretend "next" is time based. I am not buying what you are selling. 
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2017, 06:14:54 PM »
 I got it!  I have the answer, but I just lost my entire logical, thought-out-with-examples post.  >:( >:(

Bottom line:  It is a relative, semantic issue based on how one defines 'this' at the moment he is speaking!  Take it from there or wait until I get back and have the koiach to rewrite everything....

ETA I am reading above.  You are starting to be on the right track.

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2017, 06:15:50 PM »
Let me try to explain this so even a 5th grader can understand. I am even going to use your "this" even if you only added that once you were caught.  :)

Payment is not due this Thursday but next Thursday.

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2017, 06:17:02 PM »
Bottom line:  It is a relative, semantic issue based on how one defines 'this' at the moment he is speaking! 
One little problem. "THIS" was never part of OP question.  ;)
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