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Today is Thursday, Sept 14. If I say "Next Wednesday" what day would you think I am referring to?

Wednesday, Sep 20
58 (89.2%)
Wednesday, Sep 27
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2017, 06:19:16 PM »
Let try to explain this so even a 5th grader can understand. I am even going to use your "this" even if you only added that once you were caught.  :)

Payment is not due this Thursday but next Thursday.

When is payment due?
RELATIVE to how one defines 'this'.  If it is today, then in one week.  If it is in one week, then next is in two weeks.  It theoretically should be in two weeks, but this generation....

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2017, 06:21:12 PM »
One little problem. "THIS" was never part of OP question.  ;)
Insignificant.  'Next' is intrinsically TIME RELATED to 'this'.

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2017, 06:23:17 PM »
This was the question:
Today is Thursday, Sept 14. If I say "Next Wednesday" what day would you think I am referring to:
Then you started with the "this" and "the".

What happened to 1+1=3? We need him back because he would agree with you.  :)

Like JJ said, it's not about the meaning of the word "next" which you are so hung up on, it's about context and usage.

Let me try to explain this so even a 5th grader can understand. I am even going to use your "this" even if you only added that once you were caught.  :)

Payment is not due this Thursday but next Thursday.

When is payment due?

Now, let's say I tell you on Friday:
Payment is not due this Thursday but next Thursday.


When is payment due?
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2017, 06:30:52 PM »
Like JJ said, it's not about the meaning of the word "next" which you are so hung up on, it's about context and usage of how one defines 'this'.
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2017, 06:32:31 PM »
Like JJ said, it's not about the meaning of the word "next" which you are so hung up on, it's about context and usage.

Now, let's say I tell you on Friday:
Payment is not due this Thursday but next Thursday.


When is payment due?
1 - You can't just make up meanings based on context.
2 - Have no idea and would ask you for a date not day.
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2017, 06:35:07 PM »
I really hate to go there but I have to. This is the same old goalpost story. Some will constantly move them but not ME!!!  :P
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2017, 06:41:47 PM »
I really hate to go there but I have to. This is the same old goalpost story. Some will constantly move them but not ME!!!  :P
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2017, 06:51:26 PM »
I really hate to go there but I have to. This is the same old goalpost story. Some will constantly move them but not ME!!! 
If they are placed incorrectly to start then they should be moved.
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2017, 07:00:26 PM »
"The next" and "next" are different.

The next Wednesday is the the very next Wednesday we will have, which is Sep 20. "Next" Wednesday is the Wednesday after this Wednesday, which is Sep 27.

IOW, This Wednesday, and the next Wednesday are the same day - Sep 20.
Next Wednesday is Sep 27.
See above, THE next Wednesday is not next Wednesday
No, that's THIS Friday, meaning NEXT Friday is next week.
On Shabbos, this Friday will mean next week's Friday, meaning next Friday is the week after.

You are assuming 'next' must always follow 'this'. I ( as well as most people) disagree.

Usually, If I say next Wednesday I mean the next day that it is Wednesday. It is only when it is almost Wednesday that it is assumed that you would say this Wednesday for the upcoming Wednesday and that next Wednesday must mean the following week.

Those of you that say it means next week Wednesday, I am not sure I  totally agree. On Shabbos if you say next Sunday?? next Monday??






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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2017, 07:04:07 PM »
1 - You can't just make up meanings based on context.
If I say "this table", that means "this" is referring to a table. Does that mean that the definition of the word "this" is "a table"? If so, how is it possible that when I say "this chair", "this" is referring to a chair? When did the table magically turn into a chair?
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2017, 07:05:56 PM »
It really depends on what day of the week you are talking about and there are some cases where you should not use next to refer to either one.

If on Sunday you say next Wednesday people might get confused because 3 days is right on the border (IMHO).
If on Thursday you say next Sunday (also 3 days) most people would assume the upcoming one because it is the following week.

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2017, 07:10:47 PM »
Just Google "does next wednesday mean" if you want to really waste your time on this discussion...

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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2017, 07:40:41 PM »
If I say "this table", that means "this" is referring to a table. Does that mean that the definition of the word "this" is "a table"? If so, how is it possible that when I say "this chair", "this" is referring to a chair? When did the table magically turn into a chair?
"This" is referring to an object (table or chair) in this case which is one of the meanings of "this". Now show me a meaning of next that means second not first.  :P
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2017, 07:43:01 PM »
"This" is referring to an object (table or chair) in this case which is one of the meanings of "this". Now show me a meaning of next that means second not first. 
1) I showed you above.

2) if I tell you today, "I'll pay you next Friday" what date are you expecting payment?
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Re: When is Next Wednesday
« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2017, 07:43:12 PM »
"This" is referring to an object (table or chair) in this case which is one of the meanings of "this". Now show me a meaning of next that means second not first. 
If I point at a chair in front of me and say "This chair is red and the next chair is blue", the first chair is referred to as this and the second is referred to as next.
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