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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #80 on: October 01, 2017, 10:53:23 PM »
Just got a lovely Yanover in Monsey for $200. Guy claims they were $300 but people weren't buying.
Grown in Israel or Italy?
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #82 on: October 01, 2017, 10:56:40 PM »
Satmar buys Yanover or Morocco
And I would guess that in Satmar, just like in Lubavitch, one cannot call an Esrog grown in Eretz Yisroel from Yanover seeds a Yanover Esrog, right?
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #83 on: October 01, 2017, 11:00:01 PM »
And I would guess that in Satmar, just like in Lubavitch, one cannot call an Esrog grown in Eretz Yisroel from Yanover seeds a Yanover Esrog, right?
I believe so, which is why this year there are many more Moroccan esrogim available. For satmar chassidim who can't obtain or don't want to pay for a yanover

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #84 on: October 01, 2017, 11:10:15 PM »
I believe so, which is why this year there are many more Moroccan esrogim available. For satmar chassidim who can't obtain or don't want to pay for a yanover
I wouldn't say that there are that many Morroccan. I believe that the majority buys Yanover which definitely created a shortage ( or at least a reason to hype the price )

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #85 on: October 01, 2017, 11:11:56 PM »
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Thanks. Wasn't notified for some reason. He seems like he knows what he's talking about. Just can't understand why all the Chassidim think that every inyan that the Rebbe had was meant for them to copy, as well... True, he felt there was a special inyan specifically in using an Esrog from Calabria. But (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't know if he would tell his Chassidim to specifically take from Calabria, and not EY. Especially, this year, when, as he says, there could be many issues with the crop that did survive.

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #86 on: October 01, 2017, 11:21:22 PM »
Just can't understand why all the Chassidim think that every inyan that the Rebbe had was meant for them to copy, as well...
That is part and parcel of the Rebbe-Chossid relationship. There might be an exception when a minhag of the Rebbe is stated with a disclaimer that it is אינו הוראה לרבים or הנהגה פרטית, or הנהגת בית הרב, and even those הנהגות might be imitated by יחידים (for example מנהג בית הרב is to sell the chometz to the Rov with an ערב קבלן, rather than making the Rov a מורשה, yet most chassidim just make the Rov a מורשה while a select few insist on selling to the Rov).
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #87 on: October 01, 2017, 11:24:16 PM »
I wouldn't say that there are that many Morroccan. I believe that the majority buys Yanover which definitely created a shortage ( or at least a reason to hype the price )
I will disagree with you there, as I personally know of an esrog socher (or 2) who always cuts exclusively in Calabria, but this year split his time between Italy and Morocco

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #88 on: October 01, 2017, 11:26:45 PM »
I will disagree with you there, as I personally know of an esrog socher (or 2) who always cuts exclusively in Calabria, but this year split his time between Italy and Morocco
As I said "I believe"...

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #89 on: October 02, 2017, 12:12:34 AM »
How about in Satmar? Are they comfortable buying Israeli Esrogim of Yanover breed? Also following a Shmita I would guess it matters to many.
After shmitah there are plenty of people selling Chazon Ish from Morocco.
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #90 on: October 02, 2017, 12:57:41 AM »
https://youtu.be/FCTYHrSQGIY

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First time watching the guy. Love his attitude.
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #91 on: October 02, 2017, 07:35:09 AM »
First time watching the guy. Love his attitude.
He's a very big תלמיד חכם and בקי. However, he is not a רב מורה הוראה. Sometimes he doesn't allow his theoretical לומדות be confused by practical facts (a famous story was his explanation about the Rebbetzin's name מושקא, which he went public with, and the Rebbe was מבטל מכל וכל).

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #92 on: October 02, 2017, 09:34:43 PM »
Zarchi in Crown Heights has Yanover starting at $90

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #93 on: October 02, 2017, 10:07:34 PM »
Zarchi in Crown Heights has Yanover starting at $90
Chinuch? Or did the market crash?

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #94 on: October 02, 2017, 11:02:37 PM »
I just paid $550 in ch for 3 yanover and one kfar chabad including lulavim hadasim and arovos. that's about $165 for each yanover and about $55 for the kfar chabad. obviously they weren't nearly as nice as other years but neither was the kfar chabad selection.

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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #95 on: October 02, 2017, 11:09:57 PM »
Chinuch? Or did the market crash?

A crash is good news for next year...
Seems like market did decline (wouldn't call it a crash), but a certain brand held its own (though they mostly ran out of sellable Esrogim).
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #96 on: October 02, 2017, 11:47:18 PM »
Seems like market did decline (wouldn't call it a crash), but a certain brand held its own (though they mostly ran out of sellable Esrogim.
Namely?
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #97 on: October 03, 2017, 12:21:48 AM »
Namely?
Let's just say that I know of a big merchant that wholesales lulavim and Hadassim, and sells Esrogim retail, who will only buy his own Esrog from that "brand" for the same reason others would only buy there.
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #98 on: October 03, 2017, 12:25:32 AM »
Seems the yanaver market totally crashed. Congrats to anyone that held out.
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Re: Yanovor Esrogim
« Reply #99 on: October 03, 2017, 12:29:50 AM »
Seems the yanaver market totally crashed. Congrats to anyone that held out.
I wouldn't exactly call it a crash, because the esrogim that are left are probably low quality