Author Topic: Yamim noraim and Chabad Nigunim  (Read 7391 times)

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2017, 09:42:51 AM »
Ugh, the infamous 'Chabadsker Niggun' which was basically stolen from Lubavitch and litvish-fied. The fact that it has the name 'Chabadsker' is of little comfort as the song is still stolen; but moreover, even the term 'Chabadsker' itself is never used by Lubavitch.
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You are entitled to be upset
That's why I was מדקדק when I wrotewrote
And also what is now known as the chabadsker niggun
The problem with מלך עליון is that it's too long to use just a low part and too short to use a low part and a high part.
The kuntz of the two niggunim I mentioned is that they'd fit pretty well.
I know not every Shul is ok with this but by us we sing it straight rather than doing it responsively so that makes the singing not as slow.
I still struggle how much of it to sing.  When I'm a massacist I sing all 22 stanzas.

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2017, 09:57:54 AM »
You must have never heard a song that captures the mood of the piyut and really brings out the words.

Post audio or retract.


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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2017, 10:13:19 AM »
שומרי מצוותיה is a three part song. I did it once. Just work out beforehand how to fit in the words but it fits pretty much

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2017, 11:08:10 AM »
Post audio or retract.
I don't record myself on the Sabbath or Holidays.  :P

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2017, 02:35:19 PM »
שומרי מצוותיה is a three part song. I did it once. Just work out beforehand how to fit in the words but it fits pretty much
Please. No. That song is coming out of my ears.

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2017, 03:49:09 PM »
Ki Hinei Kachomer is the chabad YK nigun that does it for me.
Hauntingly beautiful.
+1
Especially while crammed into 770 with thousands of people :P

(and for those not following in the video thread, yes it is a Chabad niggun)

SOTD: Ki Hinei KaChomer, Chabad Style

Here are two takes on Chabad's Ki Hinei Kachomer

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Bonus from Project Tzama: Yaaleh Tachanunenu

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2017, 05:27:47 PM »
שומרי מצוותיה is a three part song. I did it once. Just work out beforehand how to fit in the words but it fits pretty much
Way too slow
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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2017, 07:03:52 PM »
Abie Rotenberg's version is really nice too - similar flow, which I guess is somewhat dictated by the structure of the tefila.

https://www.youtube.com/FIADnmIpvKc

On that note, this is an Able Rotenberg (Deveykus) song which is basically a copy of the Ki Hinei that Dan posted:

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2017, 09:23:59 PM »
+1
Especially while crammed into 770 with thousands of people :P

(and for those not following in the video thread, yes it is a Chabad niggun)
As mentioned in that thread, Lakewood sings this song, and so do the Israeli Litveshe Yeshivos.
What's your source that it's truly chabad?

BTW, the piano version Dan linked is stunning!

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2017, 09:28:34 PM »
On that note, this is an Able Rotenberg (Deveykus) song which is basically a copy of the Ki Hinei that Dan posted:


I highly doubt Abie doesn't give proper credit, it's exactly the same song. I'm sure he doesn't claim to have composed it.

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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2017, 09:45:03 PM »


What's your source that it's truly
chabad
as stated there (kinda,) the mesorah by chabad is that it was composed by R' Aharon* Charitonov. If you have alternative facts we can look a little deeper. I'm not gonna doubt it simply based on the fact that it's sung in Lakewood etc.

*apparently some people say it was actually his brother R' Shalom who composed it, but that's besides the point.
 
 


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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2017, 09:53:54 PM »
In general I find the Yom Kippur night piyutim to be beautiful and meaningful. The only one that that comes to a similar level but on a totally different plane is shabbos hagodol
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Re: songs for yamim noraim
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2017, 11:35:14 PM »
as stated there (kinda,) the mesorah by chabad is that it was composed by R' Aharon* Charitonov. If you have alternative facts we can look a little deeper. I'm not gonna doubt it simply based on the fact that it's sung in Lakewood etc.

*apparently some people say it was actually his brother R' Shalom who composed it, but that's besides the point.
Thx for the info.