Massacre in Las Vegas.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I meant the rounds in the mag. If it's single stack it's significantly less.

Yes it is a double or do they make a triple?

[as2]

Yes it is a double or do they make a triple?

Don't think they make a triple.

[elit]

The IS claim is of quite some interest.

This is either a major cover up by the government and/or media, or a desperate publicity stunt by IS.

They very rarely try to claim attacks that they don't know are theirs, and never have, before this, been so adamant in claiming responsibility even after their initial claim was rejected.

actually I read in number of places that they claim it's theirs all the time.
anyway why doesn't everyone just relax and wait for information instead of jumping to far fetched conclusions

[elit]

also everyone's trying to think very logically and rationally about someone who most likely was irrational and illogical

[as2]

There is a photo circulating of him in the room, after he shot himself. Seems like the guns he was using were ARs but can't be sure. The casings look like. 223s but nothings certain.

[Welder]

actually I read in number of places that they claim it's theirs all the time.
anyway why doesn't everyone just relax and wait for information instead of jumping to far fetched conclusions

"The idea that the Islamic State simply scans the news in search of mass killings, then sends out press releases in hope of stealing glory, is false."

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/10/isis-amaq-las-vegas/541746/

No one jumped to any conclusions. Questions were raised is all.

[yuneeq]

What's the conspiracy theory of choice here?

I don't think the ISIS claim is remotely true.

Based on the official police/FBI/media reports - If I had to make an order of my most likely theories despite the fact I consider all these theories unlikely to extremely unlikely-

1- He was a leftist/antifa so "they" are trying to hide his motives until the story blows over.
2. He was secretly insane
3. He's a deep state operative working for ? ? ?

[yoohoo]

I don't think the ISIS claim is remotely true.

Based on the official police/FBI/media reports - If I had to make an order of my most likely theories despite the fact I consider all these theories unlikely to extremely unlikely-

1- He was a leftist/antifa so "they" are trying to hide his motives until the story blows over.
2. He was secretly insane
3. He's a deep state operative working for ? ? ?

4. He wasnt the actual shooter but was framed.

[beeweegee]

I don't think the ISIS claim is remotely true.

Based on the official police/FBI/media reports - If I had to make an order of my most likely theories despite the fact I consider all these theories unlikely to extremely unlikely-

1- He was a leftist/antifa so "they" are trying to hide his motives until the story blows over.
2. He was secretly insane
3. He's a deep state operative working for ? ? ?

4. He wasnt the actual shooter but was framed.

You guys missed a big one that was going around - that there was more than one shooter.

[yuneeq]

You guys missed a big one that was going around - that there was more than one shooter.

That still doesn't explain motive though

[beeweegee]

I don't think the ISIS claim is remotely true.

Based on the official police/FBI/media reports - If I had to make an order of my most likely theories despite the fact I consider all these theories unlikely to extremely unlikely-

1- He was a leftist/antifa so "they" are trying to hide his motives until the story blows over.
2. He was secretly insane
3. He's a deep state operative working for ? ? ?

So the best option is unlikely, then? In other words, you concede that all these questions people are throwing around about this are likely not indicative of any coverup, foul play, strange backstory, etc. etc.?

[yuneeq]

So the best option is unlikely, then? In other words, you concede that all these questions people are throwing around about this are likely not indicative of any coverup, foul play, strange backstory, etc. etc.?

I don't know what the heck to think.
Tell me what to think.
I feel like I'm missing something.

[beeweegee]

I don't know what the heck to think.
Tell me what to think.
I feel like I'm missing something.

I think that in the investigation of a case of this magnitude, it's reasonable to give law enforcement the benefit of a day or two or three. The details will come out. I suspect that many if not most of our questions (I have 'em too) will be answered in due time. I just am not so sure how necessary or useful it is to jump to consider wild stories right away...

[grodnoking]

Girlfriend is back in America
You wouldn't fly in if you knew something

[Yammer]

actually I read in number of places that they claim it's theirs all the time.
anyway why doesn't everyone just relax and wait for information instead of jumping to far fetched conclusions

You can't expect that in the Twitter generation..

4. He wasnt the actual shooter but was framed.

LOL

Girlfriend is back in America
You wouldn't fly in if you knew something

She might have heard from him things over time but thought that just talk.

Anyhow they would've extradited her back if they wanted to.

[yuneeq]

For the flying enthusiasts
https://www.gunandgame.com/threads/vegas-shooters-plane.182701/

https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N5343M

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=5343M

"FlightAware.com is a website where you can type in an aircraft's tail number and see where that plane has flown, or even is currently flying in real time. It scrapes the FAA database on a daily basis to keep updated on things like registration information and new or deactivated tail numbers. Sometime after this shooting the FAA database removed the tail number of a plane that FlightAware shows as being previously owned by Paddock (we know he owned planes) and is now owned by an outfit in VA that looks very much like a spook front company, perhaps CIA or some other spook agency. So it's possible that someone scrubbed that data off the FAA database but forgot that FlightAware had a copy of the original data."

Does this make sense?

[stooges44]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/10/03/we-have-active-shooter-police-scanners-capture-chaos-las-vegas-shooting/727485001/

[elit]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/10/03/we-have-active-shooter-police-scanners-capture-chaos-las-vegas-shooting/727485001/

why does the recording go silent? how did the security guard get shot

[TimT]

He had a camera set up on an empty cart right outside his door

[ludmila]

4. He wasnt the actual shooter but was framed.

+1