Massacre in Las Vegas.

[beeweegee]

What info you want from the hotel? Their hands are tied by the Feds at this point.

It would exactly explain silence and lack of information. If they did something wrong or even if not and they just want to protect themselves from lawsuits they would be as silent as possible. And they would tell their employee the security guard to lay low and keep his mouth shut.

I expect nothing from the hotel, but if we are going on the speculation that the hotel is covering something up and are being silent, it doesn't mean that the feds/law enforcement would be quiet on the issue. Yes, the hotel would be quiet or make things up, but the truth would still likely come out eventually, and we wouldn't be getting all this contradictory and generally meaningless information and "updates."

[CS1]

Not sure what the hotel really did wrong.

if the hotel hired a security guy without a good background check or without strong life-saving credentials who became corrupt and allowed Paddock to bring up firearms and also perhaps was paid off (took cash to Mexico, perhaps) to allow a "movie shooting" to be made with officially fake guns, until after it was too late he realized that these were real guns when looked down and saw that his leg was bleeding...

Then, yes, the hotel is 100% liable.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The feds are doing a great job not letting anything leak. You realize we still haven’t even seen a stillshot of him arriving at the hotel or of anything else in the days leading up to the shooting ?

Remember cameras are for the casino.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

if the hotel hired a security guy without a good background check or without strong life-saving credentials who became corrupt and allowed Paddock to bring up firearms and also perhaps was paid off (took cash to Mexico, perhaps) to allow a "movie shooting" to be made with officially fake guns, until after it was too late he realized that these were real guns when looked down and saw that his leg was bleeding...

Pretty good for a Friday.

[TimT]

Remember cameras are for the casino.

There’s nothing at the entrance or the lobby ?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

There’s nothing at the entrance or the lobby ?

Could be but no different than any other hotel. Everyone thinks this is Vegas and they have cameras everywhere. Other than the casino look at this as just another hotel in another city.

[TimT]

Could be but no different than any other hotel. Everyone thinks this is Vegas and they have cameras everywhere. Other than the casino look at this as just another hotel in another city.

And they all have surveillance. Who doesn’t have cameras yet ?

[ShlockDoc]

And they all have surveillance. Who doesn’t have cameras yet ?

I'm sure there's video but we aren't entitled to it.  If you were the hotel, why would you release it voluntarily?  I don't see an upside.

[TimT]

The feds took all the footage & they aren’t releasing anything. Very strange that they won’t show from days earlier especially when they’re desperate for the public’s help.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I'm sure there's video but we aren't entitled to it.  If you were the hotel, why would you release it voluntarily?  I don't see an upside.

How about showing him coming in with what looks like a golf bag? Common occurrence for Vegas. How many guns can you put in that?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The feds took all the footage & they aren’t releasing anything. Very strange that they won’t show from days earlier especially when they’re desperate for the public’s help.

Come on leaks happen. Look at the pictures of the room.

[TimT]

Come on leaks happen. Look at the pictures of the room.

That wasn’t from the feds. Once they took over there’s nothing comin out

[ChaimMoskowitz]

That wasn’t from the feds. Once they took over there’s nothing comin out

I believe they were in charge from the beginning.

[TimT]

I believe they were in charge from the beginning.

The cops were there first. That’s most probably where these pics came from

[churnbabychurn]

The pics were real?

[TimT]

The pics were real?

Would that be considered sane or insane ?

[ShlockDoc]

... they’re desperate for the public’s help.

Is that true?  It seems like they've just been silent.  No asking for help or significant statement since it first happened. 

[TimT]

Is that true?  It seems like they've just been silent.  No asking for help or significant statement since it first happened.

They hung billboards up all over town. And they announced it first

[ludmila]

Thing is that you need to take it a step further, maybe he wasn't the actual shooter maybe there really wore more shooters, once they're lying to you there's no telling how much they made up

This is what I thought from the beginning.

[deltastubs]

What do you think about the helicopter theory, real or tampered videos?