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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #60 on: October 24, 2017, 05:29:51 PM »
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2017, 05:44:35 PM »
Congregation.
The congregation was only looking to bash?
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2017, 05:47:31 PM »
The congregation was only looking to bash?
Oops misread your post, my bad.  :-[
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2017, 05:51:01 PM »
Oops misread your post, my bad.  :-[
No worries. so did everyone else.
Do you have any source for real numbers? It seems to me that everyone prefers there not be. Some to downplay the issue and some to blow it up.
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2017, 06:57:18 PM »
First of all - anyone else amused by the producer's last name?

The problem, as always, is that many of the people who would want the community to take a real look at the problem and deal with it would, in a millisecond, use any admission of a problem as an excuse for further bashing, lawsuits, and investigations, which perpetuates the problem.

And this is not a film about showing the truth of a few people, it's a film about bashing the chasidic community, by showing painful experiences through the eyes of people who had very unfortunate situations happen to them.

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2017, 07:01:28 PM »
First of all - anyone else amused by the producer's last name?

The problem, as always, is that many of the people who claim they want the community to take a real look at the problem and deal with it would, in a millisecond, use any admission of a problem as an excuse for further bashing, lawsuits, and investigations, which perpetuates the problem.

FTFY

There are some who are after a real look and for it to be dealt with. They wouldn't do these stuff. Those who would prevent real solutions.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2017, 07:13:21 PM »
It's useful to know if the filmmaker has an anti-chassidic bias because there are (i assume) claims made in the film which are supported only by testimony, the accuracy of which require the viewer's trust. From that clip it appears she does have such a bias.

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2017, 07:29:14 PM »
First of all - anyone else amused by the producer's last name?

The problem, as always, is that many of the people who would want the community to take a real look at the problem and deal with it would, in a millisecond, use any admission of a problem as an excuse for further bashing, lawsuits, and investigations, which perpetuates the problem.

And this is not a film about showing the truth of a few people, it's a film about bashing the chasidic community, by showing painful experiences through the eyes of people who had very unfortunate situations happen to them.
Does anyone leave the Chassish world in a not awful situation?  Most don't.


Meanwhile it was never meant to showcase the world of Chassidim.   It's showing the world of those who want to leave. 


Honestly I didn't think the film was that well done. I've seen other documentaries that explained what goes on when people choose to leave way better. I can easily imagine how they were treated by their families and communities but for someone who doesn't know that world they didn't actually do a good job portraying what goes on.

Which is only a good thing because obviously videos like this sometimes give negative views towards all Jews, period.
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #69 on: October 24, 2017, 09:58:21 PM »
The pro is that nobody feels ostracized. That's for sure a big pro as they don't feel the need to either conform or go OTD.
The con is that more people seem to think it's not a contradiction to be a Chabad chosid with a trimmed beard, drink C"S, not wear a kapota, send your kids to coed schools, etc...

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #70 on: October 24, 2017, 10:13:56 PM »
https://cross-currents.com/2017/10/23/chassidim-opt-netflix-documentary/
this.

Curious, did you watch the film, or are you thising this because it thises your preconceived opinions?
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2017, 09:14:17 AM »
Come on, no one else is amused by her last name? Loki? The Norse god of mischief, the trickster?

But in all seriousness, someone with opinions like hers (i.e., chasidic jews were exterminated because they were loud and proud about their identity) isn't making a movie like this simply to tell the story of individuals leaving the fold. That would be like me producing a movie about Nazis who defected, and saying it was just about those individuals, and not about the evil system they were rebelling from.


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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2017, 09:40:46 AM »
Come on, no one else is amused by her last name? Loki? The Norse god of mischief, the trickster?

But in all seriousness, someone with opinions like hers (i.e., chasidic jews were exterminated because they were loud and proud about their identity) isn't making a movie like this simply to tell the story of individuals leaving the fold. That would be like me producing a movie about Nazis who defected, and saying it was just about those individuals, and not about the evil system they were rebelling from.

Does her purpose in making this movie detract from any of the points the movie focuses on?  Was anything skewed?  False?  Disingenuous? 

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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2017, 09:41:38 AM »
Does her purpose in making this movie detract from any of the points the movie focuses on?  Was anything skewed?  False?  Disingenuous?
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Re: "One Of Us"
« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2017, 09:44:52 AM »
Does her purpose in making this movie detract from any of the points the movie focuses on?  Was anything skewed?  False?  Disingenuous?
How could it not be?
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