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Barcelona
Links to Trip Reports: @Yehuda, Yehoshua
Kosher Restaurants: http://www.restaurantmacabi.com, https://shaqshuq.com/, https://www.ilansburgerbar.com/ (Under R' Daniel Ashkenazi of Communidad Israelita de Barcelona)
Activities: Jewish Tours in Barcelona, http://www.urbancultours.com
http://www.barcelonadreaming.com/package/barcelona-jewish-tour/
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Madrid
Links to Trip Reports: @Yehuda, @Yehuda pics, Yehoshua
Kosher Restaurants: http://www.restaurantelaescudilla.com  https://www.pinatimadrid.com/  https://www.pizzeriarimmon.com/(teuda)
Activities: Toledo - a day trip from Madrid to see 2 old Shuls. Can hire a tour guide (his contact info is somewhere in the thread), which is not cheap, or can take a train on your own. 1 of the Shuls (El Transito) is closed on Mondays. @Yehuda went on a day when that Shul was closed, and the other Shul was really just an empty room and seemed like a Christian organization now runs the center. Without a tour guide, it was hard to get anything Jewish out of our trip (other than an antique store that had some Judaica). But, people who have taken the tour (discussed in the thread) have said it was great! Recommended to go with a tour or not go at all (and ensure to go on a day when both are open!). Report in the thread that the sometimes-closed Shul has audio headsets for use, so that would help.
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Malaga
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Seville
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Activities: Jewish Tours in Sevilla/Cordoba, http://www.jewishsevilla.com
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Gibraltar
Links to Trip Reports: Yehoshua
Kosher Restaurants: Amar's Bakery and Coffee shop, http://www.amarsbakery.com/
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Mallorca
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Kosher Restaurants: Their is not - one restaurant serve felafel it's own by an israeli but no hechsher
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4500 IB Avios from anywhere to anywhere in the country
Best way to get around anywhere in this country is by scooter. It is safer driving them there since they outnumber cars by great proportions.
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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #675 on: January 22, 2016, 11:12:10 AM »
Valid point about expenses adding up as opposed to 1 car rental. Breaking it up definitely would make it easier. While I said I liked Seville a lot, I think going up to the Rock in GIB is a more exciting activity and would suggest you drive direct to GIB and get in an activity there as opposed to spending some time in Seville.

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #676 on: January 22, 2016, 11:22:36 AM »
Valid point about expenses adding up as opposed to 1 car rental. Breaking it up definitely would make it easier. While I said I liked Seville a lot, I think going up to the Rock in GIB is a more exciting activity and would suggest you drive direct to GIB and get in an activity there as opposed to spending some time in Seville.

Helpful. We're excited about the Rock! A little concerned (phobic) about the monkeys, but we'll see.
We are reserved at the Elliot (because AirBnB required 3 nights stay), at 105GBP per room per night, which seems good. We'll try to allow time to take advantage of the pool and fitness center.

More planning to follow.

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #677 on: January 23, 2016, 08:11:24 AM »
Valid point about expenses adding up as opposed to 1 car rental. Breaking it up definitely would make it easier. While I said I liked Seville a lot, I think going up to the Rock in GIB is a more exciting activity and would suggest you drive direct to GIB and get in an activity there as opposed to spending some time in Seville.
+10. Going from Cordoba to Seville to GIB even on the longest Friday of the year would be tough. Skip Seville unless you're spending the night there anyway.

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #678 on: January 23, 2016, 11:10:49 AM »

I'm not totally attached to driving, and in fact would prefer not to drive. But with a family of 5, all the connecting flights or train rides multiply the expense pretty fast, even if they are only $60 or $70 pp.


A one-way rental car across the entire country ain't gonna be cheap. I would recommend train over flying. With IB you can book flights for 4500 Avios

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #679 on: January 23, 2016, 04:17:32 PM »


Helpful. We're excited about the Rock! A
We are reserved at the Elliot (because AirBnB required 3 nights stay), at 105GBP per room per night, which seems good.

Non refundable?

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #680 on: January 23, 2016, 05:34:33 PM »
Another option would be for you to take a train from Madrid to Cordoba - takes less then 2 hours, MUCH faster then driving. Spend 1 day there, then take train to Seville (45 mins), tour if you want and then rent a car and drive to GIB (fairly close). The trains are not expensive if you book in advance and reserve a full 4 person booth - I think I paid around 25-30 Euro per person for the longer journey, or for 10 Euro more you can go first class and get a free kosher meal + drinks + lounge access at the station. I stayed overnight at the AC hotel in Cordoba which is just accross the road from station, can wheel luggage cart there. About a 15 minute walk to main tourist area with Shul etc. Lovely city...

For these particular journeys trains are much faster and more pleasant that driving.


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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #681 on: January 23, 2016, 05:44:35 PM »
Another option would be for you to take a train from Madrid to Cordoba - takes less then 2 hours, MUCH faster then driving. Spend 1 day there, then take train to Seville (45 mins), tour if you want and then rent a car and drive to GIB (fairly close). The trains are not expensive if you book in advance and reserve a full 4 person booth - I think I paid around 25-30 Euro per person for the longer journey, or for 10 Euro more you can go first class and get a free kosher meal + drinks + lounge access at the station. I stayed overnight at the AC hotel in Cordoba which is just accross the road from station, can wheel luggage cart there. About a 15 minute walk to main tourist area with Shul etc. Lovely city...

For these particular journeys trains are much faster and more pleasant that driving.


A one-way rental car across the entire country ain't gonna be cheap. I would recommend train over flying. With IB you can book flights for 4500 Avios


+10. Going from Cordoba to Seville to GIB even on the longest Friday of the year would be tough. Skip Seville unless you're spending the night there anyway.

Thanks, everyone.  I would definitely prefer not to drive -- one less headache/worry!

Every time I have looked online, either Iberia or BA, I can never find any intra-Spain flight with 5  Avios seats available -- at most 1 or 2 per flight.  I guess I can PUTPAC. 

The train is an intriguing idea. I'll price it out.  Had no idea I could get kosher meals -- nice perk.

Really appreciate everyone's input. Sorry you can't take the actual trip with me!

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #682 on: January 23, 2016, 05:47:35 PM »

Non refundable?
No, actually flexible:

"Cancellation policy 2pm on the day of arrival. Cancellation permitted until 2pm on the day of arrival. First nights accommodation charged on cancellations after 2pm."

I should add that I emailed directly with the reservations coordinator, initially via their online form, and then via regular email. She has been very easy to work with.

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #683 on: January 24, 2016, 01:24:33 AM »
No, actually flexible:

"Cancellation policy 2pm on the day of arrival. Cancellation permitted until 2pm on the day of arrival. First nights accommodation charged on cancellations after 2pm."

I should add that I emailed directly with the reservations coordinator, initially via their online form, and then via regular email. She has been very easy to work with.
Oh, because fairly often they send out 20% off emails or sales like that that. Right now they have a sale of pay for two and get the third night free

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #684 on: January 24, 2016, 06:07:43 PM »

Oh, because fairly often they send out 20% off emails or sales like that that. Right now they have a sale of pay for two and get the third night free
I think I recall seeing that deal. But I didn't think we would want three nights in GIB. Do we?

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #685 on: January 26, 2016, 01:07:14 PM »
or for 10 Euro more you can go first class and get a free kosher meal + drinks + lounge access at the station
For these particular journeys trains are much faster and more pleasant that driving.

I took the spanish trains many times and never knew about kosher food.

Which trains offer it? Where did you find about about it?

Thanks

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« Reply #686 on: January 26, 2016, 03:53:47 PM »
I took the spanish trains many times and never knew about kosher food.

Which trains offer it? Where did you find about about it?

Thanks

At the risk of cross-posting, here's what I found (GIYF):

First, Renfo, the Spanish Railways, says that you can get special meals, inc. kosher: http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/larga_distancia/servicios/serviciosRestauracion.html

Second, someone on FT posted his experience in 2014:
"Quick update in case anyone is interested. I ended up booking 'Preferente'. For the 1 hour 40 minute ride from Cordoba to Madrid at 3pm they provided a full 3 course hot kosher meal for each of us, from WAM in Paris (under supervision of dayan of Creteil). Meal included Salade Niceoise (or salmon pate), chicken with pasta and vegetables, fruit compote and halva. I think it was long life but frozen by caterer. Not wonderful, but better then Stogel and appreciated in a country where kosher food is hard to obtain.
We also had 2-3 drink services on board, plus headphone service and snack (not kosher).
Only kosher food in lounge was drinks (cans of coke/juice/water etc).

I was quite impressed with the value, at EUR 41 per person for a 1 hour 40 minute ride of nearly 400 km (standard class was EUR 24 or so)"

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #687 on: January 26, 2016, 06:48:59 PM »
At the risk of cross-posting, here's what I found (GIYF):

First, Renfo, the Spanish Railways, says that you can get special meals, inc. kosher: http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/larga_distancia/servicios/serviciosRestauracion.html

Second, someone on FT posted his experience in 2014:
"Quick update in case anyone is interested. I ended up booking 'Preferente'. For the 1 hour 40 minute ride from Cordoba to Madrid at 3pm they provided a full 3 course hot kosher meal for each of us, from WAM in Paris (under supervision of dayan of Creteil). Meal included Salade Niceoise (or salmon pate), chicken with pasta and vegetables, fruit compote and halva. I think it was long life but frozen by caterer. Not wonderful, but better then Stogel and appreciated in a country where kosher food is hard to obtain.
We also had 2-3 drink services on board, plus headphone service and snack (not kosher).
Only kosher food in lounge was drinks (cans of coke/juice/water etc).

I was quite impressed with the value, at EUR 41 per person for a 1 hour 40 minute ride of nearly 400 km (standard class was EUR 24 or so)"

That person was actually me (same as made suggestion here). It is possible to order KSML on Preferente on High Speed train. Seems that price difference was EUR 17...
You can make the request when you book your ticket.

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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #688 on: January 26, 2016, 07:34:35 PM »
That person was actually me (same as made suggestion here). It is possible to order KSML on Preferente on High Speed train. Seems that price difference was EUR 17...
You can make the request when you book your ticket.
Small world!

I'll look into it. I'm still debating rental car vs. train, or maybe a bit of both.
I can rent a family car (e.g.,  Opel Insignia) in MAD on Thurs, drive to Cordoba (via Toledo), spend Thurs night in Cordoba, and then drive to GIB Friday, and then drive to AGP on Sunday, and the total rental  cost (Hertz) would be 250Euro.  Or, we could take train from MAD to Cordoba and rent car there on Thurs, saving about 80 Euro on the rental.

I don't think I would  mind the driving, because it's pretty well broken up.
Thursday, MAD-Toledo-Cordoba.
Friday, Cordoba-GIB
Sunday, GIB-AGP.


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Re: Spain Master Thread
« Reply #689 on: January 26, 2016, 09:12:29 PM »
Small world!

I'll look into it. I'm still debating rental car vs. train, or maybe a bit of both.
I can rent a family car (e.g.,  Opel Insignia) in MAD on Thurs, drive to Cordoba (via Toledo), spend Thurs night in Cordoba, and then drive to GIB Friday, and then drive to AGP on Sunday, and the total rental  cost (Hertz) would be 250Euro.  Or, we could take train from MAD to Cordoba and rent car there on Thurs, saving about 80 Euro on the rental.

I don't think I would  mind the driving, because it's pretty well broken up.
Thursday, MAD-Toledo-Cordoba.
Friday, Cordoba-GIB
Sunday, GIB-AGP.
And the driving is pretty easy on Spanish highways too. You'll be fine.