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Barcelona
Links to Trip Reports: @Yehuda, Yehoshua
Kosher Restaurants: http://www.restaurantmacabi.com, https://shaqshuq.com/, https://www.ilansburgerbar.com/ (Under R' Daniel Ashkenazi of Communidad Israelita de Barcelona)
Activities: Jewish Tours in Barcelona, http://www.urbancultours.com
http://www.barcelonadreaming.com/package/barcelona-jewish-tour/
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Other Tips: Jewish Community of Barcelona (Orthodox): http://www.cibonline.org

Madrid
Links to Trip Reports: @Yehuda, @Yehuda pics, Yehoshua
Kosher Restaurants: http://www.restaurantelaescudilla.com  https://www.pinatimadrid.com/  https://www.pizzeriarimmon.com/(teuda)
Activities: Toledo - a day trip from Madrid to see 2 old Shuls. Can hire a tour guide (his contact info is somewhere in the thread), which is not cheap, or can take a train on your own. 1 of the Shuls (El Transito) is closed on Mondays. @Yehuda went on a day when that Shul was closed, and the other Shul was really just an empty room and seemed like a Christian organization now runs the center. Without a tour guide, it was hard to get anything Jewish out of our trip (other than an antique store that had some Judaica). But, people who have taken the tour (discussed in the thread) have said it was great! Recommended to go with a tour or not go at all (and ensure to go on a day when both are open!). Report in the thread that the sometimes-closed Shul has audio headsets for use, so that would help.
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Other Tips: Jewish Community of Madrid (Orthodox), http://www.cjmadrid.org

Malaga
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Other Tips: Comunidad Israelita de Malaga (Orthodox), http://www.cimalaga.es

Seville
Links to Trip Reports: @Yehuda, Yehoshua
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Activities: Jewish Tours in Sevilla/Cordoba, http://www.jewishsevilla.com
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Other Tips: Comunidad Judia de Sevilla, synagoguesevilla@gmail.com

Gibraltar
Links to Trip Reports: Yehoshua
Kosher Restaurants: Amar's Bakery and Coffee shop, http://www.amarsbakery.com/
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Other Tips: Jewish Community of Gibraltar, http://www.jewishgibraltar.com

Mallorca
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Kosher Restaurants: Their is not - one restaurant serve felafel it's own by an israeli but no hechsher
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Shabbos Tips: The Shul its open on Friday night
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4500 IB Avios from anywhere to anywhere in the country
Best way to get around anywhere in this country is by scooter. It is safer driving them there since they outnumber cars by great proportions.
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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #270 on: June 21, 2014, 06:25:53 PM »
Who's they? Chabad? The people in Gibraltar told me and I trust them more than some chabad shaliach that has monetary negios
unless its r' hasid, why would you trust a random person in gib? i dont get it...

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #271 on: June 22, 2014, 01:39:12 AM »
unless its r' hasid, why would you trust a random person in gib? i dont get it...
:-\ ???
All I know is the family I ate by in GIB, which is a very chashuve family, told us we can eat there.

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #272 on: June 22, 2014, 05:02:14 AM »
are they chashuv because you ate there? anyways do what works for you, but it does sound a bit odd

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #273 on: June 22, 2014, 07:10:58 AM »
are they chashuv because you ate there?
I take offense. Chashuv as in THE community leader, chashuv as in every Rosh Yeshiva in the world stays at his house and eats his food. Chashuv as in God fearing and all of his kids and SIL's are bnei torah of the highest degree. I can go on if you wish but I don't think your obnoxious comment deserves it. I didn't want to say it this way (there's no way how people here would take it) but for some reason when traveling everyone seems to rely blindly on chabad. I spoke to some lubavitchers of a prestigious chabad family and they wouldn't step foot into a chabad house unless they 100% certain that his food and wine were kosher.
#nuffsaid

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #274 on: June 22, 2014, 08:32:37 AM »
I take offense. Chashuv as in THE community leader, chashuv as in every Rosh Yeshiva in the world stays at his house and eats his food. Chashuv as in God fearing and all of his kids and SIL's are bnei torah of the highest degree. I can go on if you wish but I don't think your obnoxious comment deserves it. I didn't want to say it this way (there's no way how people here would take it) but for some reason when traveling everyone seems to rely blindly on chabad. I spoke to some lubavitchers of a prestigious chabad family and they wouldn't step foot into a chabad house unless they 100% certain that his food and wine were kosher.
#nuffsaid
so you could have said, "no, they are chashuv because x,y,z" not sure why you are so offended.
then you go on why people rely on chabad etc insinuating that people are maykil whilst travelling. yet in this scenario the opposite is true.

for most level headed people, they would rather trust someone local especially when theyre saying that the local community's kashrus standards are not up to par, which could very well make sense, rather than relying on someone who lives further out (and probably is not in the know on a day to day basis) saying the most overused and generally ridiculous term in kashrus, "it's all politics." I'm sure if you take a step back you could see that.

Clearly you are taking this extremely personal and i apologize if i offended you in any way, that was not my intention.

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #275 on: June 22, 2014, 09:07:59 AM »
so you could have said, "no, they are chashuv because x,y,z" not sure why you are so offended.
then you go on why people rely on chabad etc insinuating that people are maykil whilst travelling. yet in this scenario the opposite is true.

for most level headed people, they would rather trust someone local especially when theyre saying that the local community's kashrus standards are not up to par, which could very well make sense, rather than relying on someone who lives further out (and probably is not in the know on a day to day basis) saying the most overused and generally ridiculous term in kashrus, "it's all politics." I'm sure if you take a step back you could see that.

Clearly you are taking this extremely personal and i apologize if i offended you in any way, that was not my intention.
you are naive and have a lot to learn. But just to answer your local thing... The people of GIB are generally there on a monthly basis and these politics have been going on for many years

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #276 on: June 22, 2014, 04:36:48 PM »
Anyone know anything about Coke in Spain and/or a Kosher products list?

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #277 on: June 22, 2014, 04:52:33 PM »
Anyone know anything about Coke in Spain and/or a Kosher products list?

According to this list by Chabad of Barcelona, it is kosher.

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #278 on: June 22, 2014, 04:55:06 PM »
According to this list by Chabad of Barcelona, it is kosher.
Sweet, thanks for the find!

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #279 on: June 23, 2014, 06:22:45 PM »
BTW I davened today in BETH KENESET BETH YAACOV and I spoke to the Rabbi there. Obviously, no one knows him and no one knows his shul or anything, but sometimes I feel like you just gotta trust that a man who has a community following him (albeit a small one) in some random place, leads a frum minyan and gives over a few divrei torah infront of you isn't lying to you. He told me that La Escudilla (which happens to be 2 minutes from the shul and 2 minutes from my hotel) is under his shul's supervision and is Glatt Kosher. I didn't end up eating there because we had brought sandwiches from Israel and there was no point in wasting money, but I don't know what else to say. I don't know why Chabad doesn't like it, but I met this man and he seems like an honest, knowledgeable man.

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #280 on: June 23, 2014, 07:00:21 PM »
Also, I would highly suggest not going to Toledo. Waste of time & money. TR to come.

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #281 on: June 23, 2014, 08:11:13 PM »
Also, I would highly suggest not going to Toledo. Waste of time & money. TR to come.

I would disagree with you on this if you have a tour guide. If you are without one, I can't comment.

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #282 on: June 23, 2014, 09:40:57 PM »
Yehuda,
If you can get the email address from the Rabbi of the Madrid Orhodox Shul, I would appreciate it. 
I received an email from the Chabad of Madrid who stated ( and I quote)
"It is the policy of Chabad not to endorse any establishment unless directly involved."
Therefore, let's all calm down and understand that an establishment can be strictly Kosher even if not affiliated with Chabad and therefore not under its hashgacha nor recommended list.
I would like to find out more about La Escudilla and other kosher options in Madrid. please advise
Thanks in advance

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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #283 on: June 24, 2014, 01:45:11 AM »
Also, I would highly suggest not going to Toledo. Waste of time & money. TR to come.
completely disagree.

Depends on what your expectations are. While I was in Toledo, i came across an israeli tourist who was completely unimpressed. He thought he would see shuls the likes of which are found in rome and budapest. he was disappointed. i didnt have those expectations and was able to soak up the experience
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Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
« Reply #284 on: June 24, 2014, 01:47:25 AM »
So I reached out to someone from Gibraltar to get the inside scoop on the restaurant in Madrid and he responded as follows:

There is some truth to both sides of the coin here

There is always politics in every country between Chabad and the local community.

However I know people who won't trust the kashrus and won't eat there

I think it's all up to ones personal level of strictness