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Illegal gun murder
« on: November 05, 2017, 09:38:33 PM »
Let's start a track of all killings with illegal guns. Especially in cities with rigorous gum control/bans.
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 09:42:03 PM »
Every illegal gun started out as a legal gun...

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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 09:42:24 PM »
Let's start a track of all killings with illegal guns. Especially in cities with rigorous gum control/bans.
You need to track where they got the guns also.
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 09:46:00 PM »
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 09:46:19 PM »
Every illegal gun started out as a legal gun...
Yet making it harder for law abiding citizens to fry them doesn't stop the criminals. I'll say it again that short of a ban on all guns the stupid rhetoric attacking guns accomplishes nothing.
With 1.3 guns per person in the US your never getting rid of them.
Otoh the nra needs to stop opposing well thought and decent legislation. The efftards on both sides need to stop it.
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 09:46:51 PM »
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2017, 09:47:29 PM »
What's wrong with banning most guns?

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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2017, 09:49:01 PM »
How do you reason with someone who believes 100 round magazines shouldn’t be banned?
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Re: Illegal gun murder
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 05:35:29 AM »
Your never going to get rid of the legal handguns. You'll literally have a revolution. Stop comparing the US to other countries that have a totally different culture and had a much smaller number of guns. Move on from the stupid idea of trying to take away any guns. Work within the confines of the current culture.
Propose extreme measures and the nra loses its mind.
Might as well ban suppressors. I mean silencers. It's crazy that we alow people to kill and the only sound is pffft pfffft
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 06:45:22 AM »
So you mean that there's really no argument for this insanity other than "It's the American way!"  That to be American means apple pie, baseball and mass shootings!
If we take a look at the cultural changes in the USA over the last 50 years, on race, gender roles, and a whole lot of other stuff, there have been a lot bigger things that were "never gonna happen".


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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2017, 08:23:13 AM »
So you mean that there's really no argument for this insanity other than "It's the American way!"  That to be American means apple pie, baseball and mass shootings!
If we take a look at the cultural changes in the USA over the last 50 years, on race, gender roles, and a whole lot of other stuff, there have been a lot bigger things that were "never gonna happen".

That's the whole problem with the discussion. The one side always says that won't work but has no idea what will. Then you have the other side that just wants to ban guns. The ones in the middle who understand there is no practical use for HCM and bump stocks among other things get lost in the discussion.
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2017, 08:28:04 AM »
Might as well ban suppressors. I mean silencers. It's crazy that we alow people to kill and the only sound is pffft pfffft
#Myth
Lol and silencers let you shoot someone in broad daylight, and nobody hears it. Just like the movies.
Silencers are easily the least understood thing by the general public when it comes to guns. When congress people say stuff like that, it really makes them sound like total morons.

Reminds me of the guy (Alan Grayson FL congressman) that said the AR in Orlando could shoot off 700 rounds  per minute.
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2017, 08:36:43 AM »
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2017, 08:38:16 AM »
What am I missing?
That the only sound is not pfftpfft? Haven't you said that?
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2017, 08:47:34 AM »
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2017, 09:02:32 AM »
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I guess I read too quickly and missed the sarcasm font (or fonts don't show on Tapa).
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2017, 09:05:55 AM »
That the only sound is not pfftpfft? Haven't you said that?
Yes to a certain point. A silencer needs to be combined with subsonic ammo and fired single shot. It will be a lot quieter than the 30db reduction that is always quoted.
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Re: Illegal gun murder
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2017, 09:07:44 AM »
Yes to a certain point. A silencer needs to be combined with subsonic ammo and fired single shot. It will be a lot quieter than the 30db reduction that is always quoted.
But if it needs to be fired single shot that will make it ineffective for a mass shooting.
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