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hvaces42 · « **Reply #620 on:** June 12, 2019, 03:05:52 PM »

Quote from: kosherjid on June 12, 2019, 03:03:04 PM

Or perhaps you mean this message, next to the beis medrash in Budapest:

No I'm talking about something new. Not something from 5 years ago. I asked if anybody heard anything and I stated that it hasn't been corroborated other than the one source that I saw it on.

hvaces42 · « **Reply #621 on:** June 12, 2019, 03:12:12 PM »

This
https://twitter.com/HanyShaked/status/1138598712480059393?s=08

kosherjid · « **Reply #622 on:** June 12, 2019, 03:24:26 PM »

? based on a text from one woman ?!?

hvaces42 · « **Reply #623 on:** June 12, 2019, 03:25:41 PM »

Quote from: kosherjid on June 12, 2019, 03:24:26 PM

? based on a text from one woman ?!?

Thats a text from a reputable website forwarded by someone. Learn to read.

kosherjid · « **Reply #624 on:** June 13, 2019, 08:35:22 AM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on June 12, 2019, 03:25:41 PM

Thats a text from a reputable website forwarded by someone. Learn to read.

I checked it out. Directly with someone in Budapest. It is true.

hvaces42 · « **Reply #625 on:** June 13, 2019, 08:44:07 AM »

Quote from: kosherjid on June 13, 2019, 08:35:22 AM

I checked it out. Directly with someone in Budapest. It is true.

At least its not who we thought it could be

kosherjid · « **Reply #626 on:** June 13, 2019, 11:18:21 AM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on June 13, 2019, 08:44:07 AM

At least its not who we thought it could be

Luvtotravel · « **Reply #627 on:** June 13, 2019, 01:52:43 PM »

Could whoever's in the know please post updates? Will be visiting soon and was relying on the restaurant there.

shwarmabob · « **Reply #628 on:** June 13, 2019, 02:06:34 PM »

Quote from: Luvtotravel on June 13, 2019, 01:52:43 PM

Could whoever's in the know please post updates? Will be visiting soon and was relying on the restaurant there.

The two restaurants have different heksherim. They should kasher both of them if need be by the time you get there...
I am in the same boat, I hope I don't have to eat sardines the whole time.

hvaces42 · « **Reply #629 on:** June 13, 2019, 02:12:14 PM »

Someone should reach out to Rabbi Oberlander

kosherjid · « **Reply #630 on:** June 13, 2019, 03:28:59 PM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on June 13, 2019, 02:12:14 PM

Someone should reach out to Rabbi Oberlander

Rav Oberlander said at this moment one is not allowed to eat this meat.

hvaces42 · « **Reply #631 on:** June 13, 2019, 03:33:08 PM »

Quote from: kosherjid on June 13, 2019, 03:28:59 PM

Rav Oberlander said at this moment one is not allowed to eat this meat.

Bottom line are Hanna and Carmel open for business and kosher according to everyone as before or are they a problem right now?

shwarmabob · « **Reply #632 on:** June 13, 2019, 03:34:28 PM »

Quote from: kosherjid on June 13, 2019, 03:28:59 PM

Rav Oberlander said at this moment one is not allowed to eat this meat.

what is "this meat" referring to?
Hanna
Carmel
the Meat store?

yelped · « **Reply #633 on:** June 13, 2019, 03:47:44 PM »

I'm confused. The sign says, excluding Budapest? So the whole Europe has issues with meat? Or with meat from a certain brand? How long has this been going on? Is this a new brand?

kosherjid · « **Reply #634 on:** June 13, 2019, 06:00:56 PM »

Quote from: shwarmabob on June 13, 2019, 03:34:28 PM

what is "this meat" referring to?
Hanna
Carmel
the Meat store?

The only place one is allowed to eat us at Carmel, which is Beis Din - kascher mehadrin.

yanky1 · « **Reply #635 on:** June 17, 2019, 02:03:06 AM »

planning a trip soon.

any diary resturants?

being there for 2 days, can anybody advise what is there to visit? what's a must visit?

is a car necessary?

kosherjid · « **Reply #636 on:** June 17, 2019, 04:30:51 AM »

Quote from: yanky1 on June 17, 2019, 02:03:06 AM

planning a trip soon.

any diary resturants?

being there for 2 days, can anybody advise what is there to visit? what's a must visit?

is a car necessary?

Tel Aviv cafe is dairy - hechsher Rav Oberlander Budapest

https://varkertbazar.hu/en/events/mikveh-tour mikve@varkertbazar.hu

kosherjid · « **Reply #637 on:** June 17, 2019, 04:32:21 AM »

Quote from: yelped on June 13, 2019, 03:47:44 PM

I'm confused. The sign says, excluding Budapest? So the whole Europe has issues with meat? Or with meat from a certain brand? How long has this been going on? Is this a new brand?

shimino1 · « **Reply #638 on:** June 17, 2019, 05:13:27 AM »

When I was there three years ago for Shabbos, we ate at Hanna and had a long talk with the Mashgiach and Sochet (not because we had issues with the kashrus, rather because they were nice and interesting people).

The mashgiach and his wife were erlich chsidesh yidin from Bni Brak. The Shochet was a different person then the Mashgiach and was also a chsideshe yid from eretz yisroel. The Mashgiach and his wife have married off all their children and live in Budapest full time. They are at the restaurant all the time as Mashgicim tmidim.

They Sochet explained that once every two weeks or so they go and shect some animals a couple hours away from Budapest and that is the meat used at the Hanna restaurant (and IINM at the butcher behind the Kazincy Shul). I asked why they don't just shect every few months and freeze it and they laughed and explained that the Hungarians are very particular and insist on fresh meat which is why they have to go every two weeks.

They also said that Carmel (chabad) will only eat chabad shcita and therefore they get their own meat from a different source.

I don't know if the people there now are the same ones we met but if that is the case I would trust them 100%.

I would suggest that anyone with questions get in touch with the Mashgiach at Hanna who can probably vouch for the sourch of the meat used there.

Regarding Carmel I have no clue.

kosherjid · « **Reply #639 on:** June 17, 2019, 06:55:07 AM »

Quote from: shimino1 on June 17, 2019, 05:13:27 AM

When I was there three years ago for Shabbos, we ate at Hanna and had a long talk with the Mashgiach and Sochet (not because we had issues with the kashrus, rather because they were nice and interesting people).

The mashgiach and his wife were erlich chsidesh yidin from Bni Brak. The Shochet was a different person then the Mashgiach and was also a chsideshe yid from eretz yisroel. The Mashgiach and his wife have married off all their children and live in Budapest full time. They are at the restaurant all the time as Mashgicim tmidim.

They Sochet explained that once every two weeks or so they go and shect some animals a couple hours away from Budapest and that is the meat used at the Hanna restaurant (and IINM at the butcher behind the Kazincy Shul). I asked why they don't just shect every few months and freeze it and they laughed and explained that the Hungarians are very particular and insist on fresh meat which is why they have to go every two weeks.

They also said that Carmel (chabad) will only eat chabad shcita and therefore they get their own meat from a different source.

I don't know if the people there now are the same ones we met but if that is the case I would trust them 100%.

I would suggest that anyone with questions get in touch with the Mashgiach at Hanna who can probably vouch for the sourch of the meat used there.

Regarding Carmel I have no clue.

You are saying you spoke to the Mashgiach three years ago ?!?
I don't think that based on " speaking to the Mashgiach" one should then rely on the kashruth of the meat.
I would suggest to contact the Rabbanim in Antwerp, who signed the warnning, which I posted above, and ask them directly, which restaurant is allowed.
Although I have a written answer from Rav Oberlander in Budapest, that Tel Aviv Cafe and Carmel are kosher. Their meat is under Chabad hechsher. Nothing happened there.

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