Budapest Master Thread

[EliJelly]

Neolog

The Hungarian term and version of reform

[hvaces42]

The Hungarian term and version of reform

Close but no.

[shwarmabob]

Hi, I'm travelling to Budapest for a conference and will be there from June 29 to July 4. Since my schedule is linked to a conference and any meetings that pop-up each day, I won't know what my day will look like. I'm trying to figure out how to manage the food situation and whether I will need to bring a lot of food with me. Reading through the last few pages of this thread I have a few questions.

1. What would be the option for shabbos meals since I'm on my own (but have a company credit card to cover meals)?
2. Do any of the kosher restaurants deliver?
3. Are there any reliable kosher restaurants that do not require a reservation?
4. How late can a reservation be made? would a few hours before, the day of be possible?
5. any other kosher food tips, recommendations for a kosher business traveler on their own?

thanks!

You can prepay Hanna or Carmel for the Shabbos meals. Is your hotel within walking distance? Or get a takeout to your hotel.
I don't know about delivery, call them.
I never had to deal with reservations. Tel Aviv was the only one that turned me away because they were too busy.
You can drink the milk if you rely on R. Moshe's heter in the US. There is no eruv.
It's a big city so a lot depends on where you are staying for Shabbos.

[VacationLover]

The Hungarian term and version of reform

Neh, then it wouldn't be such a threat to Judaism. You should do some some research on the diversion (טיילונג)  what status-quo is. It's fascinating! But it's definitely not reform, certainly not when it started.

[kosherjid]

Neh, then it wouldn't be such a threat to Judaism. You should do some some research on the diversion (טיילונג)  what status-quo is. It's fascinating! But it's definitely not reform, certainly not when it started.

We are not  being 'politically correct' here.
Are you Shomer Shabbat, trying to keep Halacha al pi Tora, not changing anything written in the Thora, respecting Psak Halacha from the Gedoilim of our generation.
Or do you belong to the 'other' group?

[imayid2]

We are not  being 'politically correct' here.
Are you Shomer Shabbat, trying to keep Halacha al pi Tora, not changing anything written in the Thora, respecting Psak Halacha from the Gedoilim of our generation.
Or do you belong to the 'other' group?

Many people, including some chashuva תלמידי חכמים, belonged to the status quo community, and were

Shomer Shabbat, trying to keep Halacha al pi Tora, not changing anything written in the Thora, respecting Psak Halacha from the Gedoilim of our generation.

[kosherjid]

Many people, including some chashuva תלמידי חכמים, belonged to the status quo community, and were

I am not a תלמיד חכם nor  חשוב but I hope and pray that my children and grandchildren till מושיח will stay on the glorious path of our ancestors and be forever proud to be a עבד השם not looking 'elsewhere' ...............

[imayid2]

I am not a תלמיד חכם nor  חשוב but I hope and pray that my children and grandchildren till מושיח will stay on the glorious path of our ancestors and be forever proud to be a עבד השם not looking 'elsewhere' ...............

Same here!

Not quite sure the relevance though.

[VacationLover]

We are not  being 'politically correct' here.
Are you Shomer Shabbat, trying to keep Halacha al pi Tora, not changing anything written in the Thora, respecting Psak Halacha from the Gedoilim of our generation.
Or do you belong to the 'other' group?

I think you misunderstood my post. I meant 'fascinating' as an interesting and vital part of Orthodox Jewish history.

[yelped]

Many people, including some chashuva תלמידי חכמים, belonged to the status quo community, and were

And many in the frum side didn't want the Apteilinung in the first place.

[kosherjid]

And many in the frum side didn't want the Apteilinung in the first place.

Call me old fashioned, but I hope and pray that my descendants will be so busy in their lives with following the תורה that this subject will not interest them at all. So much damage has been done to the Jewish nation through Reform/Neolog etc.
Why pay them money to see the Museum? 
It made me shudder to see this huge building *I do not call it a synagoge*

[EliJelly]

And many in the frum side didn't want the Apteilinung in the first place.

They stayed in the status quo. The majority and predominant Talmidei C"S were for it. And IINM also the Yetev Lev/ R' Hershele Lisker. Fact is that the "Teilung" was the reason why Hungarian orthodox Jewry didn't end up with the same fate like the Polish and Lithuanian.

[yelped]

They stayed in the status quo. The majority and predominant Talmidei C"S were for it. And IINM also the Yetev Lev/ R' Hershele Lisker. Fact is that the "Teilung" was the reason why Hungarian orthodox Jewry didn't end up with the same fate like the Polish and Lithuanian.

According to Darkei Hayoshor Vhatov, R'Hershele was not really for it. He said that they should so whatever the Maraham Shif said to do, but he didn't really want it.

[UKinNYS]

Interestingly the main 'status quo' shul was the Rumbach - just down the  block
When I stayed right there on shabbos a while ago it was only open as a museum (with entry fees)
seems like things have changed recently and is being used as a shul (as well as a cultural center )
https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-60-years-of-decay-budapests-grand-rumbach-synagogue-has-new-lease-on-life/

They stayed in the status quo.

[VacationLover]

Interestingly the main 'status quo' shul was the Rumbach - just down the  block
When I stayed right there on shabbos a while ago it was only open as a museum (with entry fees)
seems like things have changed recently and is being used as a shul (as well as a cultural center )
https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-60-years-of-decay-budapests-grand-rumbach-synagogue-has-new-lease-on-life/

I was there a few weeks ago. I believe it's still used obly as a museum.

Happens to be, my grandfather lived right across the street post WW2

[shwarmabob]

status quo was frum 100 percent.
Dohany was/is Neolog not Status Quo. I stayed in an apartment across the street over yomim tovim decades ago and there was a "very nice" organ music drifting in through the window.

[hvaces42]

Can we move this discussion to a separate Halacha thread @mods

At the end of the day entering Dohany is AYLOR

[kosherjid]

Can we move this discussion to a separate Halacha thread @mods

At the end of the day entering Dohany is AYLOR

Not so sure this belongs to Halacha.
Rather it's a warning to Jewish tourists visiting Budapest, they should not enter dohany,  as it is forbidden.

[moish]

The point I was making was that the Dohany not only was Neolog, but still is today a functioning non Orthodox synagogue and for those who refrain from entering such synagogues (like myself) to be aware of that whilst visiting Budapest.

[kosherjid]

The point I was making was that the Dohany not only was Neolog, but still is today a functioning non Orthodox synagogue and for those who refrain from entering such synagogues (like myself) to be aware of that whilst visiting Budapest.

And the point I was making is that this 'building' is not a Synagogue.  It is reform. Meaning they distort what is written in the Thora, they don't accept the Halacha, they change everything according to their own agenda.