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Do you expect your federal taxes to go up or down?

Up
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Have no idea
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #380 on: December 24, 2017, 12:21:31 AM »
You really believe that? Did you see my original post?
Why don't you post a link to the post you're referring to instead of using hints.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #381 on: December 24, 2017, 12:21:50 AM »
What was new to me recently on this thread, were some tones that reminded me of the famous mantra "from each according to their abilities, and to each according to their needs". Now where does that come from? Can someone remind me?
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #382 on: December 24, 2017, 12:24:02 AM »
As I have said numerous times, the only way for it to not have benefited those who pay more taxes more than those who pay less was to make the tax system more progressive than it is now and shift an even higher percentage of it to the rich. That is simply taking from the rich to give to the politicians with a small slice going to the poor. I though more of you than to have expected such a thing from the Rs.
And such a move would be pointless. I have yet to see one economist that says that such a move would cure the fiscal problems of the US. Almost everything I've read seems to say that the only way to fix things on the revenue side is to broaden the base.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #383 on: December 24, 2017, 12:26:20 AM »
KM
Now, if I hadn't known where that mantra came from, I wouldn't have figured out what KM stands for. I don't think it's on the DDF acronyms thread, nor am I so certain Google would be of help (if I just search KM).

http://www.abbreviations.com/serp.php?st=KM&p=99999
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #384 on: December 24, 2017, 12:26:57 AM »
You really believe that? Did you see my original post?
This?
I am going to guess going up for me.

Last 6 years effective tax rate %:
-3.65
.43
-3.59
1.11
1.07
.81

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #385 on: December 24, 2017, 12:28:16 AM »
Now, if I hadn't known where that mantra came from, I wouldn't have figured out what KM stands for. I don't think it's on the DDF acronyms thread, nor am I so certain Google would be of help (if I just search KM).
But google would definitely give you the source for the quote.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #386 on: December 24, 2017, 12:29:40 AM »
But google would definitely give you the source for the quote.
So you're saying it's KM and not CM?  :P

Is it part of a religious philosophy?
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #387 on: December 24, 2017, 12:30:11 AM »
A 15k mortgage is low, unless house is mostly paid off.  And 12k property tax is really high.
Read :). 15k a year. And this is Jersey, we're talking about. One of the states with the highest property taxes. And 2 kids.
15k mortgage interest is about 400k loan, I'm not familiar with property taxes or prices in NJ, or the typical income for a family. it strikes me as 80k being  fairly low income for someone purchasing a house with those costs, thats why I asked.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #388 on: December 24, 2017, 12:31:15 AM »
This?
Yes. I don't even pay tax. Almost everyone is going to get more back than me and they should. Some of us say we care about others and some show it with our actions.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #389 on: December 24, 2017, 12:48:20 AM »
Yes. I don't even pay tax. Almost everyone is going to get more back than me and they should. Some of say we care about others and some show it with our actions.
Maybe if you would have some skin in the game you would feel differently. This is exactly why many conservatives feel that every single person should pay some taxes even if they end up getting it back in the end. The purpose of taxes should not be charity. You are not doing anything with your actions by saying that the "rich" should be forced to give more money to subsidize others. That is talk not action.

Also, if taxes would be helping those who need it that would be "a halbe tzoro". It is not. The way to help other is to do it and not to say what other people should pay in taxes.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #390 on: December 24, 2017, 12:52:06 AM »
I have to perfectly honest, that while I can probably quote quite a few verses by heart with cantillation, being able to remember (or for that matter read) every single post of yours (especially on threads where you are highly active, and especially in the political threads) is beyond my abilities. I don't come close to the abilities of my dear friend @aygart.
If your assumption was correct that means I would be jealous of low/middle class also. Pretty far fetched assumption.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #391 on: December 24, 2017, 12:55:42 AM »
If your assumption was correct that means I would be jealous of low/middle class also.
Why? Once being jealous do it right!
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #392 on: December 24, 2017, 12:59:30 AM »
You are not doing anything with your actions by saying that the "rich" should be forced to give more money to subsidize others.
Not sure what is worse. Your ignorance or being clueless.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #393 on: December 24, 2017, 01:02:26 AM »
Not sure what is worse. Your ignorance or being clueless.
So educate me. What you may give to those in need a certainly laudable but has nothing to do with an argument about taxes.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #394 on: December 24, 2017, 01:08:57 AM »
So educate me.
I gave an example a first grader could understand.  :P
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #395 on: December 24, 2017, 01:11:21 AM »
I gave an example a first grader could understand.  :P
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #396 on: December 24, 2017, 01:12:17 AM »
Who paid for the pizza?
I donated it.  :)
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #397 on: December 24, 2017, 01:19:04 AM »
I donated it.  :)
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #398 on: December 24, 2017, 01:20:25 AM »
So you're saying it's KM and not CM?  :P
Karl is my brother from another mother.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #399 on: December 24, 2017, 01:50:27 AM »
Karl is my brother from another mother.
Oh so that's why KM is Jewish but not CM. :P
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