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Do you expect your federal taxes to go up or down?

Up
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Have no idea
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #240 on: December 21, 2017, 02:27:51 PM »
You said this.Please back up with facts or:
I am not making assumptions I am rejecting yours. If you want to argue with facts go ahead, if you want to argue with an assumption I have no obligation to assume the same as you. I can reject them out of hand. You want to make the assumption then you back it up.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #241 on: December 21, 2017, 02:31:17 PM »
I am not making assumptions I am rejecting yours. If you want to argue with facts go ahead, if you want to argue with an assumption I have no obligation to assume the same as you. I can reject them out of hand. You want to make the assumption then you back it up.
So you are rejecting them on assumptions you are making. Hello is anybody home?
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #242 on: December 21, 2017, 02:36:19 PM »
So you are rejecting them on assumptions you are making. Hello is anybody home?
No I am rejecting them simply  because I see no reason to accept them.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #243 on: December 21, 2017, 02:42:01 PM »
No I am rejecting them simply  because I see no reason to accept them.
That can be said about every post made on DDF. Try using a little common sense.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #244 on: December 21, 2017, 03:01:17 PM »
I have no clue whether my taxes will go up or down, I sincerely hope they go up substantially.

I haven't yet filed 2016, and I think 2017 was substantially better, looking forward to an even better 2018. Though I definitely do welcome the increase in child tax credit (the fact that I had a baby in 2017 extends the usefulness of that), I am not yet sure whether I will be able to benefit from the 20% deduction for passthrough entitites, need to study the final details. If I will be able to take advantage of that, it will definitely be very helpful.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #245 on: December 21, 2017, 03:07:39 PM »
That can be said about every post made on DDF. Try using a little common sense.
You made assumptions that there will be cuts to entitlements. I do not see that as likely to happen
You assumed that even if there is it would be because of this bill. I think the Rs would want entitlement reform regardless of this bill.
You assumed that entitlement reform hurts the lower and middle class. I have seen too many people stuck doing nothing with their life because of entitlements to believe that.

Yes these are all opinions, but so is what you wrote and I am not beholden to your opinion.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #246 on: December 21, 2017, 03:10:19 PM »
That can be said about every post made on DDF. Try using a little common sense.

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #247 on: December 21, 2017, 03:10:31 PM »
So you are rejecting them on assumptions you are making. Hello is anybody home?

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #248 on: December 21, 2017, 03:10:45 PM »
You said this.Please back up with facts or:

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #249 on: December 21, 2017, 03:10:59 PM »
You know for a fact what is going to happen over the next 8 years? I thought the holiday was over and common sense returned but it seems some have a hangover.  :)

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #250 on: December 21, 2017, 03:11:38 PM »
You just can't cut taxes 1.5 trillion an expect it to magically pay for itself. Entitlement programs will take a hit. That effects the low/middle class the most. They are predicting 10mm+ plus uninsured by the time this expires. You think they will be low/middle class or the rich?

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #251 on: December 21, 2017, 03:14:56 PM »
Anyone keeping track of the word "heist" in the liberal media today?
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #252 on: December 21, 2017, 03:15:31 PM »
Yes these are all opinions, but so is what you wrote and I am not beholden to your opinion.
So we are on the same page. You don't agree with my assumptions and I don't agree with yours.

Do you agree that this bill will cost 1-1.5 trillion? If not what is your figure?
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #253 on: December 21, 2017, 03:16:14 PM »
So we are on the same page. You don't agree with my assumptions and I don't agree with yours.

Do agree that this bill will cost 1-1.5 trillion? If not what is your figure?

Put up or shut up

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #254 on: December 21, 2017, 03:20:00 PM »
So we are on the same page. You don't agree with my assumptions and I don't agree with yours.

Do you agree that this bill will cost 1-1.5 trillion? If not what is your figure?
I don't have a figure, but lets say 1-1.5. Where should it come from? Entitlements which needed o be reformed anyhow. Unlikely that will happen.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #255 on: December 21, 2017, 03:23:31 PM »
I don't have a figure, but lets say 1-1.5. Where should it come from? Entitlements which needed o be reformed anyhow. Unlikely that will happen.
It should not have passed. We cant pay our bills now why would you add more?

The issue is trade. Need to export more than we import.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #256 on: December 21, 2017, 03:24:56 PM »
It should not have passed. We cant pay our bills now why would you add more?

The issue is trade. Need to export more than we import.

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #257 on: December 21, 2017, 03:25:31 PM »
It should not have passed. We cant pay our bills now why would you add more?

The issue is trade. Need to export more than we import.
Having a better tax system for corporations will help that.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #258 on: December 21, 2017, 03:26:44 PM »
Having a better tax system for corporations will help that.
Assumption?  :)
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #259 on: December 21, 2017, 03:27:44 PM »
Assumption?  :)
Historically proven. Take a look at Ireland.
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