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Do you expect your federal taxes to go up or down?

Up
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Down
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Have no idea
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #580 on: January 22, 2018, 10:00:46 AM »
Now you care about the rest of the world. OK Mr Moveable Goalpost.  :P
1. Where did I say that it should be done to benefit the world?
2. Inasmuch as it helps US interests, we would be doing it for ourselves. A strong global economy does benefit US interests.
3. At most this is a fringe benefit
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #581 on: January 22, 2018, 10:03:56 AM »
1. Where did I say that it should be done to benefit the world?
2. Inasmuch as it helps US interests, we would be doing it for ourselves. A strong global economy does benefit US interests.
3. At most this is a fringe benefit
Please take reading comprehension 101.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #582 on: January 22, 2018, 10:35:47 AM »
Please take reading comprehension 101.
Took it. Saw no metion of  :P or for that matter  ;) :D ;D >:( :o 8) ??? ::) :-[ :-X :-\ :-* or  :'(
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #583 on: January 22, 2018, 11:08:42 AM »
Took it. Saw no metion of  :P or for that matter  ;) :D ;D >:( :o 8) ??? ::) :-[ :-X :-\ :-* or  :'(
Maybe I need to take 101. What did you take "Global. Wow." to mean?
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #584 on: January 22, 2018, 11:13:44 AM »
Maybe I need to take 101. What did you take "Global. Wow." to mean?
Trying to cheat on your tests, heh?
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #585 on: January 22, 2018, 11:20:33 AM »
Trying to cheat on your tests, heh?
You mean like Trump did? What a joke that was.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #586 on: January 22, 2018, 11:23:18 AM »
Maybe I need to take 101. What did you take "Global. Wow." to mean?

What did you take "Global. Wow." to mean?
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #588 on: February 01, 2018, 10:57:12 AM »
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #589 on: February 01, 2018, 11:05:35 AM »
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #590 on: February 01, 2018, 11:16:50 AM »
Thousands of dollars is literally crumbs when you have tens of millions of dollars.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/net-worth/Nancy-Pelosi?cid=N00007360&year=2016
Yup. Better that the tax rate wasn't changed and nobody got bonuses or increases!
that way the government could give it to those who don't actually work (you know, the democratic base) instead of hard working citizens
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #591 on: February 01, 2018, 11:26:53 AM »
Lets see this tax cut is costing 1.5 trillion. When workers get half of that wake me up.

Hey kids you each get 5k for Christmas. Isn't that great? The thing is I put it on a CC and you have to pay the bill when it comes due.  :)
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #593 on: February 02, 2018, 09:49:55 AM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/959418945680887808

Just to level-set this all, when business pay their employees, that's a tax deduction. So that just means that even more of the tax break is going to rich corporations.  HT @ChaimMaddow

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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #594 on: February 04, 2018, 02:37:14 PM »
Cross post alert for those with their head buried in the sand!!!
Shows how out of touch the R's are.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/04/paul-ryan-tweet-school-secretary-tax-bill
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #595 on: February 27, 2018, 04:07:23 PM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/tweets-and-the-new-york-times-1519763808

Discussing this article
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/23/business/how-to-fill-out-1040-form.html
which makes a hypothetical family to show they will pay $3000 more under the new tax law.

Until a UChicago tax law Asst Professor tweeted
https://twitter.com/DanielJHemel/status/967914103640612865

oops.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #596 on: February 28, 2018, 03:40:32 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/tweets-and-the-new-york-times-1519763808

Discussing this article
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/23/business/how-to-fill-out-1040-form.html
which makes a hypothetical family to show they will pay $3000 more under the new tax law.

Until a UChicago tax law Asst Professor tweeted
https://twitter.com/DanielJHemel/status/967914103640612865

oops.
I actually followed your links in reverse order, and without being a Tax Law Asst Professor, right away realized that the NYT article omitted the 20% deduction for pass-through income, which I then saw that the WSJ reports in the name of the esteemed professor. (Does one really need to be a professor to figure that one out? I have a lot more complicated issues in the new tax bill that I wish someone could simplify for me, such as the rules on business interest expenses).
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #598 on: March 06, 2018, 05:07:24 PM »
https://twitter.com/FreemanWSJ/status/968952535468961792
Finally

Correction: March 2, 2018

An earlier version of this article incorrectly described the probable effect of the new tax law on a hypothetical couple’s 2018 tax bill. The TurboTax “What-If Worksheet” that generated the projection for their 2018 taxes failed to indicate that the couple would probably be entitled to claim a sizable deduction for income earned from consulting. As a result of that deduction, the amount they would likely owe on taxes would decline by $43, not rise by $3,896.
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https://twitter.com/DanielJHemel/status/970720220049559552

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-turbotax-defense-1520368709

The Times is not alone in failing to appreciate the benefits of tax reform. And if the paper is still trying to get a handle on the details of the Republican plan enacted in December, it can hardly be a shock to readers.

But TurboTax is another story. Millions of Americans rely on the software to guide them through the morass of state and federal tax regulations. Has the software been updated to reflect recent changes in the law? TurboTax maker Intuit has not yet responded to emails but if it does, this column will be updated.
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Re: Will your federal taxes be going up or down next year?
« Reply #599 on: March 06, 2018, 11:13:40 PM »
But TurboTax is another story. Millions of Americans rely on the software to guide them through the morass of state and federal tax regulations. Has the software been updated to reflect recent changes in the law? TurboTax maker Intuit has not yet responded to emails but if it does, this column will be updated.

UPDATE: In response to this column’s inquiry, Lisa Greene-Lewis of TurboTax maker Intuit emailed the following statement:

    When the calculation was run using the “What if” tool a few months ago for tax year 2018 ( taxes to be filed in 2019), the tool was not updated with future tax law. The IRS is still in the process of issuing additional guidance.

    Following the tax reform bill being signed into law, TurboTax first concentrated on updating our tax year 2017 products with the few new provisions in the law that impact 2017 taxes so that our customers could accurately file their 2017 taxes. We also updated our TaxCaster app tool, which allows customers to get an estimate of their tax liability for 2017 and also a side-by-side comparison of how the new tax reform law impacts them. We continue to update our stand alone tools for future year tax scenario calculations and can assure you that our tax products used to file taxes are up to date for the 2017 tax year (taxes that are being filed now). Once we receive additional guidance from IRS on the 2018 tax provisions for taxes filed in 2019, our 2018 tax products will be updated as with previous tax law changes.
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