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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #560 on: December 24, 2017, 09:23:37 AM »
Regarding myself, I am probably a more authentic Ponovezher than many (not the Yeshiva, the town ;)).

Regarding the rest of world Jewry, why would anyone say so? What Ponovezher הנהגות or תורות are becoming more widespread, adapted, or accepted amongst Jews from all backgrounds?
Ever hear of a sefer called אבי עזרי?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #561 on: December 24, 2017, 09:32:28 AM »
Ever hear of a sefer called אבי עזרי?
Definitely.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #562 on: December 24, 2017, 09:33:57 AM »
Definitely.
So what is your question?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #563 on: December 24, 2017, 01:35:12 PM »
Shout out to Meshugener!

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #564 on: December 24, 2017, 02:39:00 PM »
Wow this is unbelievable! I heard a lot of interesting stories over the last few days but this is amazing!

Translation: The first letter R’ Leibish wrote with the students from this school was exactly 6 years ago! pic.twitter.com/I3gJuZTj2i



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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #565 on: December 24, 2017, 06:14:48 PM »

Good stuff from his brother in law.
Confirms that Schumer was anti!

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #568 on: December 24, 2017, 06:47:20 PM »

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #569 on: December 24, 2017, 06:56:12 PM »
Rabbi Balkany noted that organizers of the annual Kinus Hashluchim, for the first couple of years, refused repeated requests to have Tehillim said for Rubashkin’s plight at the mega-event which draws thousands of Lubavitcher chasidim from all over the world every year.


I'm surprised with Chabad.  Any of you guys want to defend them?

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #571 on: December 24, 2017, 07:09:08 PM »
https://www.vosizneias.com/287703/2017/12/24/new-york-rabbi-balkany-satmar-hasidim-heroes-sen-schumer-a-zero-in-rubashkin-release/

So Satmar worked harder then Chabad worked for him?
Sorry, but I'm going with Dershowitz' story over his.

Hamodia: "Can you discuss a little who were some of the people that you were most involved with in this effort?"

Dershowitz: "Sure. Most important was Rabbi Zvi Boyarsky, the head of the Aleph Institute; he organized a great many things."

People like Dershowitz, Boyarsky, and Kushner actually worked behind the scenes to make it happen. Even if they don't feel the need to gloat about it to the world and spread nasty L"H about others. For shame.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #572 on: December 24, 2017, 07:14:10 PM »
Sorry, but I'm going with Dershowitz' story over his.

Hamodia: "Can you discuss a little who were some of the people that you were most involved with in this effort?"

Dershowitz: "Sure. Most important was Rabbi Zvi Boyarsky, the head of the Aleph Institute; he organized a great many things."

People like Dershowitz, Boyarsky, and Kushner actually worked behind the scenes to make it happen. Even if they don't feel the need to gloat about it to the world and spread nasty L"H about others. For shame.
You are obviously nogeah badavar - some family ties. But I just feel that you're right on this one. I don't know what it is, but Balkany just sounded to me like he has a certain agenda. Some of what might have made it come across like that, was use of terms such as Chabad, Satmar etc. Rather than specific individuals, or even saying "the Satmar Community" etc.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #573 on: December 24, 2017, 07:16:23 PM »
Wouldn't a brother-in-law know the best who helped on a day to day basis?

One thing we can all agree on, is SHAME ON SCHUMER.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #574 on: December 24, 2017, 07:16:39 PM »
Sorry, but I'm going with Dershowitz' story over his.

Hamodia: "Can you discuss a little who were some of the people that you were most involved with in this effort?"

Dershowitz: "Sure. Most important was Rabbi Zvi Boyarsky, the head of the Aleph Institute; he organized a great many things."

People like Dershowitz, Boyarsky, and Kushner actually worked behind the scenes to make it happen. Even if they don't feel the need to gloat about it to the world and spread nasty L"H about others. For shame.

Fits with the Chabad MO for political advocacy, which is to focus on behind the scenes pressure.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #575 on: December 24, 2017, 07:18:08 PM »
If you watched the melave malka, it was apparent that the Satmar guys worked very hard

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #576 on: December 24, 2017, 07:19:28 PM »
Wouldn't a brother-in-law know the best who helped on a day to day basis?

He might, and he might not. And if he has an agenda, that might trump any actual facts.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #577 on: December 24, 2017, 07:19:42 PM »
Why would they mention him at the Kinus?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #578 on: December 24, 2017, 07:21:28 PM »
If you watched the melave malka, it was apparent that the Satmar guys worked very hard
Not doubting it for a second.

But if the question is "who had the greatest impact in getting the commutation?" the answer to that might be different.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #579 on: December 24, 2017, 07:23:50 PM »
Sorry, but it was Satmar people (not the kehilla) that started his campaign, Satmar people from Monsey & KJ. They started out with the fundraising campaign and the first petetion to WH.gov. it was from the very first petitions if not the very first

BP had the first campaign night, followed in KJ right after Lag Boomer. (I recall by the LB fire in KJ before it started there was an announcement that there will be a dinner for SMR. They don't usually announce such things)