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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #740 on: January 07, 2018, 12:21:32 PM »
Let me say it in unequivocal terms: Linda Reade is a blatant antisemite!  This case is just תנא דמסייע, doesn't prove anything.
Never heard of this judge before. Does she have a history of giving Jews harsher sentences? If so was this brought up on appeal?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #741 on: January 07, 2018, 12:41:02 PM »
Never heard of this judge before. Does she have a history of giving Jews harsher sentences? If so was this brought up on appeal?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_R._Reade

I don't know how many Jews were sentenced by her. It's not like she was a judge in the southern district of New York.

But her actions on the Rubashkin case scream louder than anything else.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #742 on: January 07, 2018, 12:46:32 PM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_R._Reade

I don't know how many Jews were sentenced by her. It's not like she was a judge in the southern district of New York.

But her actions on the Rubashkin case scream louder than anything else.
If you are going to make a claim someone is an anti-Semite you should have some facts to back it up. If you are going to condemn her then you need to condemn our entire legal system. All the way to the SC agreed with her.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #743 on: January 07, 2018, 12:55:51 PM »
If you are going to make a claim someone is an anti-Semite you should have some facts to back it up. If you are going to condemn her then you need to condemn our entire legal system. All the way to the SC agreed with her.
Not wanting to overturn a judge's action doesn't mean agreeing.

One doesn't always get justice out of our legal system, but a system is in place, and once something is done, overturning it is something that has a higher burden of proof.

As I said, I am not going to prove anything, and I don't know if it can be proved, but using the duck analogy.... even if it's only on one case.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #744 on: January 07, 2018, 01:03:54 PM »
As I said, I am not going to prove anything, and I don't know if it can be proved, but using the duck analogy.... even if it's only on one case.
If you are only going to use one case then you have no case. Were the prosecutors also anti-Semites? Weren't they also going to ask for life?

He is out and why not just focus on that? If you are going to retry the case please do it with the facts.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #746 on: January 07, 2018, 01:09:25 PM »
Were the prosecutors also anti-Semites? Weren't they also going to ask for life?
Let’s remember that prosecutors sought 25 years

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #747 on: January 07, 2018, 01:18:19 PM »
Nothing to do with A-S claims, but her hands were hardly clean:
http://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2017/08/a-federal-judge-put-hundreds-of-immigrants-behind-bars-while-her-husband-invested-in-private-prisons/
This would be a better argument for giving longer sentences but a weak one at that. Pretty hard for the limited amount of cases she had to effect the stock price.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #748 on: January 07, 2018, 01:20:29 PM »
He is out and why not just focus on that? If you are going to retry the case please do it with the facts.

Indeed, we focus on the fact that he's out. The case is not going to be retried.

I think you will have a hard time convincing people around here that Linda Reade isn't an antisemite. I am not going to argue facts, it's just the smell test. This is not a court of law where a presumption of innocence exists, and one is innocent until proven guilty. This is the court of public opinion, backed by thousands of years of experience. And since there's no earthly court penalty for being an antisemite, there isn't a requirement or a burden of proof.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #749 on: January 07, 2018, 01:23:04 PM »
I think you will have a hard time convincing people around here that Linda Reade isn't an antisemite.
I agree 100%.
I am not going to argue facts, it's just the smell test.
If the facts say otherwise I would go with the smell test also.  :)
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #750 on: January 07, 2018, 01:24:14 PM »
http://www.therobingroom.com/Judge.aspx?ID=1793

apparently she known for always giving the max

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #751 on: January 07, 2018, 01:27:53 PM »

...but didn't they originally ask for a life sentence?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #752 on: January 07, 2018, 01:29:23 PM »
http://www.therobingroom.com/Judge.aspx?ID=1793

apparently she known for always giving the max
Sounds like Trump would love her.  :)
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #753 on: January 07, 2018, 01:38:06 PM »
Sounds like Trump would love her.  :)
Apparently not

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #754 on: January 07, 2018, 01:41:12 PM »
Apparently not
Did I miss something?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #755 on: January 07, 2018, 02:08:47 PM »
...but didn't they originally ask for a life sentence?
No. 25 yrs.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #756 on: January 07, 2018, 02:22:31 PM »
No. 25 yrs.
So this is not accurate?

Rubashkin's sentencing hearing took place on April 28–29 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Prosecutors asked Judge Reade to impose a life sentence. After that request came under fire from former Justice Department officials, including six former Attorneys General, one former solicitor general and more than a dozen former United States attorneys, Assistant U.S. Attorney Pete Deegan said in court that the government would seek 25 years, while the defense asked for no more than six years.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #757 on: January 07, 2018, 02:29:44 PM »
I don’t have facts of the story 100% but I know another yid was in court there a couple yrs later. And someone mentioned that we’ll get you like we got rabashkin. I highly doubt it was the judge but I think it was the prosecutor or someone like that

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #758 on: January 07, 2018, 02:37:30 PM »
So this is not accurate?

Rubashkin's sentencing hearing took place on April 28–29 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Prosecutors asked Judge Reade to impose a life sentence. After that request came under fire from former Justice Department officials, including six former Attorneys General, one former solicitor general and more than a dozen former United States attorneys, Assistant U.S. Attorney Pete Deegan said in court that the government would seek 25 years, while the defense asked for no more than six years.
If that is indeed fact, then yes, the prosecutors were/are blatant antisemites.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #759 on: January 07, 2018, 02:42:35 PM »
If that is indeed fact, then yes, the prosecutors were/are blatant antisemites.
Why would you make such a statement? You lose all credibility.
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