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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #100 on: December 20, 2017, 09:14:41 PM »
As someone who davened 3x a day for many years and wrote letters, lobbied politicians etc., I could not be happier.

BUT.....amidst all the Simcha, we should still remember that he still commited a crime and we should not be dancing in the streets like a POW was just released. It just doesn’t look right. Turning SMR into a Hero isn’t the right message to be giving over  to our children and the world as a whole.
I'm sure you did the most you can to free him but you make no sense. We all agree he committed a crime. If he would be sitting 5 years no one would talk about this and when he would be released there would be no one dancing in the streets. We are all celebrating because he was commuted from a sentence he didn't deserve. Nothing hard to understand. Stop with the non sense.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #101 on: December 20, 2017, 09:15:02 PM »
Oh and if you want to really thank someone for making this happen, drive down to Livingston, NJ. The real hero of this story resides there.

The Shluchim who know the Kushners?

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #102 on: December 20, 2017, 09:18:14 PM »
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #103 on: December 20, 2017, 09:19:47 PM »
The Shluchim who know the Kushners?

Is that the latest story going around on whatsapp?

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #104 on: December 20, 2017, 09:20:50 PM »
Is that the latest story going around on whatsapp?

Not at all. Just guessed that from what you said. Can you explain who the hero from Livingston is?

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #105 on: December 20, 2017, 09:23:08 PM »

@shonhopwood
I wish the President would commute more sentences handed down by US District Court Judge Linda Reade, who is the worst fed sentencing judge in America. She gave my client 30 years in 2016 for selling synthetic marijuana. Rubashkin's sentence was equally appalling.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #106 on: December 20, 2017, 09:24:50 PM »
Not at all. Just guessed that from what you said. Can you explain who the hero from Livingston is?

Charlie Kushner. He said it would be his priority and nothing would stop him from making sure his Mechutan got Shalom Rubashkin released. It was supposed to have happened before RH but there were things that got in the way.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #107 on: December 20, 2017, 09:25:03 PM »
@senorrinhatch
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This is a real Hanukkah miracle. I am proud to be a part of a large, bipartisan group of members of Congress who, along with over a hundred former senior justice officials, have been calling for Mr. Rubashkin’s release for the past eight years.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #108 on: December 20, 2017, 09:26:01 PM »
Charlie Kushner. He said it would be his priority and nothing would stop him from making sure his Mechutan got Shalom Rubashkin released. It was supposed to have happened before RH but there were things that got in the way.

Who brought it up to Charlie Kushner? Did he know Rubashkin?

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #109 on: December 20, 2017, 09:31:13 PM »
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Who brought it up to Charlie Kushner? Did he know Rubashkin?

He has several business partners that have long been involved in the case. Rabbi Boyarsky from Aleph was extremely involved there as well. Having a bi-partisan support from top of both parties was also essential in providing Trump w the political cover neccesary.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #110 on: December 20, 2017, 09:33:05 PM »
Who brought it up to Charlie Kushner? Did he know Rubashkin?

There are quite a few people who know both men well ;)

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #111 on: December 20, 2017, 09:35:56 PM »


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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #112 on: December 20, 2017, 09:58:36 PM »
Monsey tours sponsored bus heading to 5501 15th ave. Left Monsey 15 minutes ago.he's going to his parents,  then to the ohel.

Update: they are not going to the ohel, just to 770. Then back to Monsey
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #113 on: December 20, 2017, 10:04:21 PM »
Chabad just declared Washington as the capital of the US. Beginning the process of moving 770 over to Washington.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #114 on: December 20, 2017, 10:05:50 PM »
Charlie Kushner. He said it would be his priority and nothing would stop him from making sure his Mechutan got Shalom Rubashkin released. It was supposed to have happened before RH but there were things that got in the way.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #115 on: December 20, 2017, 10:07:11 PM »
Chabad just declared Washington as the capital of the US. Beginning the process of moving 770 over to Washington.
#FakeNews
You don’t move your own Capital into another country’s capital that you recognize. You send your ambassador there. Chabad has an ambassador in Washington DC as well as thousands of other places.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #116 on: December 20, 2017, 10:15:05 PM »
Wow. Can’t even call this thinly veiled antisemitism. Reminder to Mr Teig: SMR wasn’t serving any time for immigration offenses.

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But former prosecutor Bob Teig, who retired in 2011 after serving as a prosecutor and spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office for the Northern District of Iowa, said Trump’s decision to commute Rubashkin’s sentence “makes no sense” given Trump’s repeated promises to get tougher on illegal immigration.

Teig said that every court that looked at Rubashkin’s sentence had concluded it was fair, and suggested that former Justice Department officials and lawmakers who supported leniency were unaware of the facts of the case.

“The outrage is backwards,” he said
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #117 on: December 20, 2017, 10:18:08 PM »
Wow. Can’t even call this thinly veiled antisemitism. Reminder to Mr Teig: SMR wasn’t serving any time for immigration offenses.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #118 on: December 20, 2017, 10:22:07 PM »
Chabad just declared Washington as the capital of the US. Beginning the process of moving 770 over to Washington.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #119 on: December 20, 2017, 10:22:43 PM »
Monsey tours sponsored bus heading to 5501 15th ave. Left Monsey 15 minutes ago.he's going to his parents,  then to the ohel.

Aren’t they by 14-43?