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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #120 on: December 20, 2017, 10:23:41 PM »
Wow. Canít even call this thinly veiled antisemitism. Reminder to Mr Teig: SMR wasnít serving any time for immigration offenses.
Who cares what that loser says.

Like AJK said, there's good chance if they wouldn't have let hate get in the way, SMR might have been locked up longer.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #121 on: December 20, 2017, 10:24:11 PM »
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #122 on: December 20, 2017, 10:24:26 PM »
Wow. Canít even call this thinly veiled antisemitism. Reminder to Mr Teig: SMR wasnít serving any time for immigration offenses.
Prosecutors are always against these things.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2017, 10:27:26 PM »
Prosecutors are always against these things.
Which is why we have a constitution to protect us from them
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #124 on: December 20, 2017, 10:30:47 PM »
Which is why we have a constitution to protect us from them
They feel once they have a trail and it is decided that is it. I think we all can agree their as been some major abuses to this commute/pardon power. Leaving this case out of it.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #125 on: December 20, 2017, 10:38:07 PM »
They feel once they have a trail and it is decided that is it. I think we all can agree their as been some major abuses to this commute/pardon power. Leaving this case out of it.
Pardongate and Nixon's pardon being amongst the most egregious.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #126 on: December 20, 2017, 10:39:58 PM »
As someone who only mentioned him in my prayers about once a week, I totally disagree.
We are celebrating that he doesn't have to sit another 20 years, which would have been unjust compared to his crimes.
I don't recall the same celebrations when Pollard was released. Why was that?

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2017, 10:40:37 PM »
Pardongate and Nixon's pardon being amongst the most egregious.
There is enough abuse to go around everywhere.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #128 on: December 20, 2017, 10:41:16 PM »
I don't recall the same celebrations when Pollard was released. Why was that?
He spied against our great country.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #129 on: December 20, 2017, 10:41:23 PM »
Arenít they by 14-43?

As of now,  this is the route of the bus.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #130 on: December 20, 2017, 10:43:59 PM »
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #131 on: December 20, 2017, 10:44:29 PM »
He spied against our great country.
And got a sentence longer than other spies. Same situation in terms of getting a sentence longer than it should have been.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #132 on: December 20, 2017, 10:46:26 PM »
And got a sentence longer than other spies. Same situation in terms of getting a sentence longer than it should have been.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #133 on: December 20, 2017, 10:46:33 PM »
What's absolutely mind-boggling to consider is if the judge had not been such a zealot, and sentenced him to, say, 16 years (which would have been both (i) far more consistent with comparable sentences and (ii) not more than the 25 years the prosecutors had asked for!), the outcry would not have been as big, the support to free him not as widespread, and the unity among klal yisroel not as strong.

It was precisely because of the unprecedented 27-year sentence that he's out after "only" eight, and not sitting for double that.

I think there's a relevant lesson here. Not often are people in this world afforded the opportunity to see the maxim of "gam zu letovah" come to vibrant life, that if the hand of God is moving, it is only doing so for the best. 

An analogy that has always struck me is embroidery.  As you may know, the bottom of an embroidered picture is a chaotic, haphazard mess.  However, from the perspective of the creator, everything is in deliberate, beautiful, harmonized order.

Too many times in life we look up, shake our heads, and wonder "How could this happen?" "What did we do to deserve this?"

In those trying times, think of Shalom Rubashkin and the embroidered picture, and know that although it may look ugly from our humanly vantage (from the bottom), that is not so in true reality--from above, this, that, or whatever, is deliberate, beautiful, and for the best.






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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #134 on: December 20, 2017, 10:46:46 PM »
And got a sentence longer than other spies. Same situation in terms of getting a sentence longer than it should have been.
There is no sentence to long for a traitor.
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