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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #285 on: December 21, 2017, 01:06:35 PM »
At least people should acknowledge that there is widespread problem in the judicial system
Have you been under a rock the last few months ? This has been discussed over & over again ad nauseam.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #286 on: December 21, 2017, 01:11:45 PM »
Are you honestly saying Rubashkin was less of a career criminal than someone who got caught with an oz of pot a couple of times, and maybe tried to sell it? Convicted or not, Rubashkin was running an operation with scores of labor and immigration problems for years.

I have literally nothing at stake but to point out a hypocrisy that I'm seeing that anyone who's a goy and was sentenced to life in prison is a "career criminal" but if its a Yid then its antisemitism. At least people should acknowledge that there is widespread problem in the judicial system and Rubashkin is one of many victim.
"someone who got caught with an oz of pot a couple of times, and maybe tried to sell it" Right. They only got caught a few times. For every time they didnt get caught...They're career criminals. How many times does one have to get caught to be considered a career criminal? 10? 20? 100?

Life in prison because of three-strikes laws is abominable. But you have to draw the line somewhere. Where do you draw it? That is the struggle each state legislature has to deal with. The sentencing guidelines in NY, which does not have a three strikes law gets Draconian for multiple offenses. If someone was caught selling x amount of drugs multiple times they can get indeterminate sentences such as 6 to Life. Is that wrong?

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #287 on: December 21, 2017, 01:14:50 PM »
Stop making up facts that never happened. He was exonerated on the immigrant hiring charges...
Not accurate. The Feds dropped the immigration charges after he was convicted of 86 counts.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #288 on: December 21, 2017, 01:22:08 PM »

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #289 on: December 21, 2017, 01:25:37 PM »
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #290 on: December 21, 2017, 01:53:22 PM »
Not accurate. The Feds dropped the immigration charges after he was convicted of 86 counts.
Also, it is empirical fact that he was the head of a company that had violations even if he wasn't personally guilty.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #291 on: December 21, 2017, 02:04:05 PM »
Also, it is empirical fact that he was the head of a company that had violations even if he wasn't personally guilty.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #292 on: December 21, 2017, 03:04:46 PM »
Also, it is empirical fact that he was the head of a company that had violations even if he wasn't personally guilty.
Guilt by association that's a chargeable offense I guess
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #293 on: December 21, 2017, 03:08:02 PM »
Serves no useful purpose to try and retry the case.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #294 on: December 21, 2017, 03:19:28 PM »
Are you honestly saying Rubashkin was less of a career criminal than someone who got caught with an oz of pot a couple of times, and maybe tried to sell it? Convicted or not, Rubashkin was running an operation with scores of labor and immigration problems for years.

I have literally nothing at stake but to point out a hypocrisy that I'm seeing that anyone who's a goy and was sentenced to life in prison is a "career criminal" but if its a Yid then its antisemitism. At least people should acknowledge that there is widespread problem in the judicial system and Rubashkin is one of many victim.
Everyone agrees that there's need for Judicial reform. There's bipartisan support for it. And there is a great need to bring more awareness to the issue.

(BTW, there is much evidence that the Govt actually caused the crime to be commited, and forced him into bankruptcy in order to have a bank fraud conviction.)


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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #295 on: December 21, 2017, 03:24:42 PM »
Everyone agrees that there's need for Judicial reform. There's bipartisan support lip servicefor it. And there is a great need to bring more awareness to the issue.

(BTW, there is much evidence that the Govt actually caused the crime to be commited, and forced him into bankruptcy in order to have a bank fraud conviction.)
FTFY
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #296 on: December 21, 2017, 03:25:52 PM »
(BTW, there is much evidence that the Govt actually caused the crime to be commited, and forced him into bankruptcy in order to have a bank fraud conviction.)
Please stop.
Serves no useful purpose to try and retry the case.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #297 on: December 21, 2017, 03:26:01 PM »
Stupid brainwashed bochurim etc will buy that the case was anti semitec, yes PETA did target agri.

But its awesome he was released, but this wasnt a war on jews etc

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #298 on: December 21, 2017, 03:29:11 PM »
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #299 on: December 21, 2017, 03:30:12 PM »
Not accurate. The Feds dropped the immigration charges after he was convicted of 86 counts.

Liberals: Everyone illegal should be allowed to stay, and get govt benefits, and bring their family.  But, lock up anyone who employs them.