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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #571 on: December 24, 2017, 07:09:08 PM »
https://www.vosizneias.com/287703/2017/12/24/new-york-rabbi-balkany-satmar-hasidim-heroes-sen-schumer-a-zero-in-rubashkin-release/

So Satmar worked harder then Chabad worked for him?
Sorry, but I'm going with Dershowitz' story over his.

Hamodia: "Can you discuss a little who were some of the people that you were most involved with in this effort?"

Dershowitz: "Sure. Most important was Rabbi Zvi Boyarsky, the head of the Aleph Institute; he organized a great many things."

People like Dershowitz, Boyarsky, and Kushner actually worked behind the scenes to make it happen. Even if they don't feel the need to gloat about it to the world and spread nasty L"H about others. For shame.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #572 on: December 24, 2017, 07:14:10 PM »
Sorry, but I'm going with Dershowitz' story over his.

Hamodia: "Can you discuss a little who were some of the people that you were most involved with in this effort?"

Dershowitz: "Sure. Most important was Rabbi Zvi Boyarsky, the head of the Aleph Institute; he organized a great many things."

People like Dershowitz, Boyarsky, and Kushner actually worked behind the scenes to make it happen. Even if they don't feel the need to gloat about it to the world and spread nasty L"H about others. For shame.
You are obviously nogeah badavar - some family ties. But I just feel that you're right on this one. I don't know what it is, but Balkany just sounded to me like he has a certain agenda. Some of what might have made it come across like that, was use of terms such as Chabad, Satmar etc. Rather than specific individuals, or even saying "the Satmar Community" etc.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #573 on: December 24, 2017, 07:16:23 PM »
Wouldn't a brother-in-law know the best who helped on a day to day basis?

One thing we can all agree on, is SHAME ON SCHUMER.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #574 on: December 24, 2017, 07:16:39 PM »
Sorry, but I'm going with Dershowitz' story over his.

Hamodia: "Can you discuss a little who were some of the people that you were most involved with in this effort?"

Dershowitz: "Sure. Most important was Rabbi Zvi Boyarsky, the head of the Aleph Institute; he organized a great many things."

People like Dershowitz, Boyarsky, and Kushner actually worked behind the scenes to make it happen. Even if they don't feel the need to gloat about it to the world and spread nasty L"H about others. For shame.

Fits with the Chabad MO for political advocacy, which is to focus on behind the scenes pressure.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #575 on: December 24, 2017, 07:18:08 PM »
If you watched the melave malka, it was apparent that the Satmar guys worked very hard

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #576 on: December 24, 2017, 07:19:28 PM »
Wouldn't a brother-in-law know the best who helped on a day to day basis?

He might, and he might not. And if he has an agenda, that might trump any actual facts.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #577 on: December 24, 2017, 07:19:42 PM »
Why would they mention him at the Kinus?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #578 on: December 24, 2017, 07:21:28 PM »
If you watched the melave malka, it was apparent that the Satmar guys worked very hard
Not doubting it for a second.

But if the question is "who had the greatest impact in getting the commutation?" the answer to that might be different.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #579 on: December 24, 2017, 07:23:50 PM »
Sorry, but it was Satmar people (not the kehilla) that started his campaign, Satmar people from Monsey & KJ. They started out with the fundraising campaign and the first petetion to WH.gov. it was from the very first petitions if not the very first

BP had the first campaign night, followed in KJ right after Lag Boomer. (I recall by the LB fire in KJ before it started there was an announcement that there will be a dinner for SMR. They don't usually announce such things)

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #580 on: December 24, 2017, 07:25:26 PM »
Why would they mention him at the Kinus?
For the "outsiders" around here, please understand that although "חסידים זיינען איין משפחה", the Kinus is specifically focused on Shlichus and Shluchim.

Questioning why it wasn't mentioned there would be akin to asking why wasn't it mentioned at the event about the dangers of technology.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #581 on: December 24, 2017, 07:33:03 PM »
well the achdus ended quickly
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #582 on: December 24, 2017, 07:34:19 PM »
Sorry, but this whole "who did it" is pathetic.
And knocking others who worked tirelessly behind the scenes as doing nothing is even more pathetic.

well the achdus ended quickly
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #583 on: December 24, 2017, 07:34:47 PM »
Sorry, but this whole "who did it" is pathetic.
+1000000000000000000
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #584 on: December 24, 2017, 07:39:37 PM »
They’re both tops in chesed to anyone in Klal Yisroel