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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #735 on: January 06, 2018, 06:51:39 PM »
Can we get the kid to write Trump a letter to step down?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #736 on: January 07, 2018, 08:45:35 AM »
In contrast:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-05/payday-loan-mogul-trades-ferraris-racing-life-for-prison-term

Only 17 years.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #737 on: January 07, 2018, 09:36:27 AM »
In contrast:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-05/payday-loan-mogul-trades-ferraris-racing-life-for-prison-term

Only 17 years.

SMR is out, but Linda Reade shouldn't be left off the hook!
I have been told my times (tax thread) why am I worried about what someone else is getting. So I will ask you the same thing.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #738 on: January 07, 2018, 10:16:52 AM »
I have been told my times (tax thread) why am I worried about what someone else is getting. So I will ask you the same thing.
Can you explain how the two are comparable?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #739 on: January 07, 2018, 10:50:06 AM »
I have been told my times (tax thread) why am I worried about what someone else is getting. So I will ask you the same thing.

From the article headlines:

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Prosecutors said Tucker stole $1.3 billion from poor customers

Supposedly the "justification" for SMRs sentence was the amount of losses incurred by the banks.

Seems like here despite a much larger amount, sentence is shorter. (Besides for other striking differences).

As someone said recently about ducks...

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #740 on: January 07, 2018, 12:21:32 PM »
Let me say it in unequivocal terms: Linda Reade is a blatant antisemite!  This case is just תנא דמסייע, doesn't prove anything.
Never heard of this judge before. Does she have a history of giving Jews harsher sentences? If so was this brought up on appeal?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #741 on: January 07, 2018, 12:41:02 PM »
Never heard of this judge before. Does she have a history of giving Jews harsher sentences? If so was this brought up on appeal?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_R._Reade

I don't know how many Jews were sentenced by her. It's not like she was a judge in the southern district of New York.

But her actions on the Rubashkin case scream louder than anything else.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #742 on: January 07, 2018, 12:46:32 PM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_R._Reade

I don't know how many Jews were sentenced by her. It's not like she was a judge in the southern district of New York.

But her actions on the Rubashkin case scream louder than anything else.
If you are going to make a claim someone is an anti-Semite you should have some facts to back it up. If you are going to condemn her then you need to condemn our entire legal system. All the way to the SC agreed with her.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #743 on: January 07, 2018, 12:55:51 PM »
If you are going to make a claim someone is an anti-Semite you should have some facts to back it up. If you are going to condemn her then you need to condemn our entire legal system. All the way to the SC agreed with her.
Not wanting to overturn a judge's action doesn't mean agreeing.

One doesn't always get justice out of our legal system, but a system is in place, and once something is done, overturning it is something that has a higher burden of proof.

As I said, I am not going to prove anything, and I don't know if it can be proved, but using the duck analogy.... even if it's only on one case.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #744 on: January 07, 2018, 01:03:54 PM »
As I said, I am not going to prove anything, and I don't know if it can be proved, but using the duck analogy.... even if it's only on one case.
If you are only going to use one case then you have no case. Were the prosecutors also anti-Semites? Weren't they also going to ask for life?

He is out and why not just focus on that? If you are going to retry the case please do it with the facts.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #746 on: January 07, 2018, 01:09:25 PM »
Were the prosecutors also anti-Semites? Weren't they also going to ask for life?
Letís remember that prosecutors sought 25 years

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #747 on: January 07, 2018, 01:18:19 PM »
Nothing to do with A-S claims, but her hands were hardly clean:
http://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2017/08/a-federal-judge-put-hundreds-of-immigrants-behind-bars-while-her-husband-invested-in-private-prisons/
This would be a better argument for giving longer sentences but a weak one at that. Pretty hard for the limited amount of cases she had to effect the stock price.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #748 on: January 07, 2018, 01:20:29 PM »
He is out and why not just focus on that? If you are going to retry the case please do it with the facts.

Indeed, we focus on the fact that he's out. The case is not going to be retried.

I think you will have a hard time convincing people around here that Linda Reade isn't an antisemite. I am not going to argue facts, it's just the smell test. This is not a court of law where a presumption of innocence exists, and one is innocent until proven guilty. This is the court of public opinion, backed by thousands of years of experience. And since there's no earthly court penalty for being an antisemite, there isn't a requirement or a burden of proof.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #749 on: January 07, 2018, 01:23:04 PM »
I think you will have a hard time convincing people around here that Linda Reade isn't an antisemite.
I agree 100%.
I am not going to argue facts, it's just the smell test.
If the facts say otherwise I would go with the smell test also.  :)
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