Author Topic: Rubashkin freed from prison.  (Read 181276 times)

Offline whYME

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 3213
  • Total likes: 1240
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #780 on: January 07, 2018, 06:20:19 PM »
Now, what other excuse is there for such misconduct other than antisemitism?
Well one other possibility is just plain old fashioned corruption, maybe they were bought off by the unions who were warring with Rubashkin?

Whatever the motivation was, this entire case stinks from beginning to end. Is there any argument about that? Or are we only arguing about the motives of the judge and prosecution?

Offline shapsam

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 3017
  • Total likes: 634
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #781 on: January 07, 2018, 06:22:50 PM »
I don't think that conservative judges are a good thing for us. Social issues that have no real life ramifications aside, you end up with Linda Reade, a Bush appointee who sentences strictly with no consideration for the story.
This had nothing to do with right/left, the prosecutor was a Dem, for years the local media didn't stop bashing Rubashkin and co and that led to the government doing what they did...

Offline thaber

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 3784
  • Total likes: 465
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
    • View Profile
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #782 on: January 07, 2018, 06:25:36 PM »
This had nothing to do with right/left, the prosecutor was a Dem, for years the local media didn't stop bashing Rubashkin and co and that led to the government doing what they did...
I agree. But she is known for long and cruel sentences, and I'm sure that played a part in addition to what you mentioned. And that part was coming from a conservative perspective and bias

Offline Yehuda57

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2014
  • Posts: 4888
  • Total likes: 14644
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
    • Squilled
  • Location: Brooklyn
  • Programs: Official Dansdeals salad correspondent
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #783 on: January 07, 2018, 06:26:29 PM »
Well one other possibility is just plain old fashioned corruption, maybe they were bought off by the unions who were warring with Rubashkin?

Whatever the motivation was, this entire case stinks from beginning to end. Is there any argument about that? Or are we only arguing about the motives of the judge and prosecution?
I think the unions are what got things rolling. Many of the allegations against Rubashkin quoted in the media come from them. Remember, Obama even brought up Rubashkin campaigning in Iowa. So IMHO it's definitely not all antisemitism. But once they destroyed him and his company, why continue fighting so dirty?

Yes, we all agree it stinks worse than Chatalet station. (where are my Brunoy alumni at?)

Offline ChaimMoskowitz

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2014
  • Posts: 6738
  • Total likes: 1097
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #784 on: January 07, 2018, 06:34:09 PM »
Isn’t this so-called anti-Semitic judge the one who reversed the decision and gave him bail? Wasn’t her sentence with in federal guidelines?
I just found a new supply of forks!

Offline Yehuda57

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2014
  • Posts: 4888
  • Total likes: 14644
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
    • Squilled
  • Location: Brooklyn
  • Programs: Official Dansdeals salad correspondent
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #785 on: January 07, 2018, 07:23:36 PM »
Isn’t this so-called anti-Semitic judge the one who reversed the decision and gave him bail? Wasn’t her sentence with in federal guidelines?
1) Yes.
2) Read the above links and the briefs written in support of Rubashkin.
A) Even if technically within the guidelines, they went against the spirit of the guidelines, as stated by the very people who wrote them and common sense. Using the "guidelines" as cover is disingenuous at best.
B) The charges were inflated artificially in numerous ways purely to game the guidelines and get the inhumane sentence. Again, read the links above to see how. An honest judge would see through that.
C) She gave a longer sentence than even the prosecution asked for, which I believe was a couple of years beyond the guidelines. She has done the same for many other defendants.

Again, I personally don't know that there is evidence *she* is an anti semite. There is plenty of evidence she is a terrible judge.

Offline Baruch

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jan 2013
  • Posts: 2601
  • Total likes: 330
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #786 on: January 11, 2018, 04:07:51 PM »

Offline shlonx

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: May 2015
  • Posts: 188
  • Total likes: 32
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Brevity may be the soul of wit, but floridity is its spirit.

Offline Definitions

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2018
  • Posts: 1748
  • Total likes: 479
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #788 on: February 01, 2018, 10:00:45 AM »
My Tapatalk notifications don't always work.

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7218
  • Total likes: 978
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #789 on: February 01, 2018, 10:02:43 AM »
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline ADG

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 1460
  • Total likes: 79
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: BK
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #790 on: February 01, 2018, 10:06:26 AM »
you mean that in a good way.. I hope

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7218
  • Total likes: 978
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #791 on: February 01, 2018, 10:10:32 AM »
you mean that in a good way.. I hope
Oh no.
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline ADG

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 1460
  • Total likes: 79
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: BK
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #792 on: February 01, 2018, 10:12:21 AM »
Oh no.

There are much greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on. Try to use the love you have for yourself and for other jews.

Offline Amusch

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2013
  • Posts: 624
  • Total likes: 52
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Queens, New York
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #793 on: February 01, 2018, 10:14:10 AM »
There are much greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on. Try to use the love you have for yourself and for other jews.

I've kept my mouth shut on this whole thread, but can we please acknowledge that this is a little silly, and retire the "greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on" argument for a while.

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7218
  • Total likes: 978
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #794 on: February 01, 2018, 10:14:41 AM »


There are much greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on. Try to use the love you have for yourself and for other jews.

Really? This one is quite terrible, and if other Atrocities are posted here, I'll possibly respond, but I'm not running after them
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline Definitions

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2018
  • Posts: 1748
  • Total likes: 479
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #795 on: February 01, 2018, 10:17:30 AM »
Guys come on, it's obviously not a serious thing (והראיה from the fact that it says תשעח). It looks like it was given to him as a present. I'll post the other picture in a minute.


upload from web
« Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 10:21:04 AM by Definitions »
My Tapatalk notifications don't always work.

Offline ADG

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 1460
  • Total likes: 79
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: BK
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #796 on: February 01, 2018, 10:19:26 AM »
it is silly... so what! one person made it and probably did on his own accord, doesnt mean it is "sick". Only someone who is engulfed in machlokes will present it that way...

Offline davidrotts63

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: May 2017
  • Posts: 7218
  • Total likes: 978
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 26
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hertz Gold, Hyatt Member, BA Blue, Ebay banned, Amazon Prime
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #797 on: February 01, 2018, 10:20:48 AM »
it is silly... so what! one person made it and probably did on his own accord, doesnt mean it is "sick". Only someone who is engulfed in machlokes will present it that way...
Very prejudice IMO
(Quit) pulling out the flowers, and watering the weeds. -Peter Lynch

Offline ADG

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 1460
  • Total likes: 79
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: BK
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #798 on: February 01, 2018, 10:22:52 AM »
Very prejudice IMO

So you think your not sick :)

Offline jj1000

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 13463
  • Total likes: 6089
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 29367
    • View Profile
  • Location: The value of a forum such as this one is not in that one can post a question and receive an answer, but in that the question has most likely been asked before, and the answer is available to him that will but only use the search function.
  • Programs: 1. Search on google. 2. Search in the right board of DDF with a general word or two. 3. Read the wiki. 4. Read the thread. 5. Ask away.
Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #799 on: February 01, 2018, 10:23:47 AM »
I've kept my mouth shut on this whole thread, but can we please acknowledge that this is a little silly, and retire the "greater otrosities in the world that you can focus on" argument for a while.
Does anyone say it's not silly to think it's an actual prayer?
See my 5 step program to your left <--

(Real signature under my location)