Rubashkin freed from prison.

[yuneeq]

Please elaborate, I don't get the problem here.

I feel it's a mockery of the tefillos that Chazal instituted.

The fact that this was given to him personally and not hung up for everyone shows even more how it's a personal thing.

Is it personal if this pic has been sent around the world?

[Definitions]

I feel it's a mockery of the tefillos that Chazal instituted

Maybe at first glance. But if people think about it for drop they'll realize that its a present to him. And in no way whatsoever is it mocking anybody.

[jj1000]

I feel it's a mockery of the tefillos that Chazal instituted.

Is it personal if this pic has been sent around the world?

Are modern day piyutim a mockery?

[yuneeq]

Are modern day piyutim a mockery?

It's not a piyut.
It's a mockery of the al hanisim using the same words and style, pretending to be equivalent.

ETA: It's not the worst thing ever. It just feels wrong so I will say so. Probably if it was given on Purim I'd say it's fine.

[ADG]

It's not a piyut.
It's a mockery of the al hanisim using the same words and style, pretending to be equivalent.

ETA: It's not the worst thing ever. It just feels wrong so I will say so. Probably if it was given on Purim I'd say it's fine.

Good thing right and wrong is not based on your feelings...

[ExGingi]

This is sick.

Is that the first thing that came to your mind when you saw this?

If so, I sincerely hope it's just a bad moment you were having, otherwise you might be able to use some help or inspiration.

[jj1000]

It's not a piyut.
It's a mockery of the al hanisim using the same words and style, pretending to be equivalent.

ETA: It's not the worst thing ever. It just feels wrong so I will say so. Probably if it was given on Purim I'd say it's fine.

I hear, like I mentioned with the megilah example, it's just something people do with modern events, it's not meant as a mockery. But I can see how someone who's never seen anything like it before can be insulted by it. But to me it doesn't feel like that at all.

[davidrotts63]

Is that the first thing that came to your mind when you saw this?

If so, I sincerely hope it's just a bad moment you were having, otherwise you might be able to use some help or inspiration.

It's a mockery of the al hanisim using the same words and style, pretending to be equivalent.

ETA: It's not the worst thing ever. It just feels wrong so I will say so. Probably if it was given on Purim I'd say it's fine.

[yuneeq]

Good thing right and wrong is not based on your feelings...

I gave my reason above. At the end of the day we must use our own judgement, I'm not telling anyone else how to feel.

I hear, like I mentioned with the megilah example, it's just something people do with modern events, it's not meant as a mockery. But I can see how someone who's never seen anything like it before can be insulted by it. But to me it doesn't feel like that at all.

I'm not personally insulted, I just think it's wrong for the reason stated above.
I'll agree to disagree.

[Dawie]

DO at the Tomechei Shabbos Dinner on MtSh"K ?
http://matzav.com/the-rubashkin-lakewood-tomchei-shabbos-dinner-hahodaah/

[jj1000]

I'll agree to disagree.

Fair enough.

[Boruch999]

Not so terrible.  I definitely wouldn't describe it as sick.  If it was Purim it would be considered Purim shtick.  Since it's not, it gives the impression that the guy who made it thinks that RSMR's personal geula is comparable to Chanuka and Purim which would be ridiculous. 

[zh cohen]

No I am talking about the Federal charges that were dropped after the 86 convictions of fraud. Please let’s not pretend there was no child labor. If you want retry this make sure you use facts and not personal feelings.

The reason people keep mentioning the State child labor aquittal is because the defender showed that the company had proper safeguards to ensure workers were legal. If the govt. would have brought the immigration charges to trial the same arguments (which had been accepted by a jury) would have held.

There is a reason they brought the fraud charges to trial first.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The reason people keep mentioning the State child labor aquittal is because the defender showed that the company had proper safeguards to ensure workers were legal.

I am not up on the case as most here are. Didn't the company plead guilty to using child labor?

[shapsam]

I am not up on the case as most here are. Didn't the company plead guilty to using child labor?

No.