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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #870 on: February 04, 2018, 10:58:32 PM »
I am showing a well known pattern of yours. In a discrimination case the jury would be out 30 seconds before returning a guilty verdict. 
In short you have no way of knowing if it was done with knowledge. Okay.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #871 on: February 04, 2018, 11:00:40 PM »
In short you have no way of knowing if it was done with knowledge. Okay.
Why do stick your nose in something you have to idea what is being discussed?
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #872 on: February 04, 2018, 11:02:10 PM »
Why do stick your nose in something you have to idea what is being discussed?
You've stuck into discussions about Judaism
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #873 on: February 04, 2018, 11:03:24 PM »
You've stuck into discussions about Judaism
Avoid the question as usual since you dug yourself a whole.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #874 on: February 04, 2018, 11:06:41 PM »
Avoid the question as usual since you dug yourself a whole.
Like how you keep saying over and over that there were children without answering what they wrote about knowledge. Whatever.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #875 on: February 04, 2018, 11:11:33 PM »
Like how you keep saying over and over that there were children without answering what they wrote about knowledge. Whatever.
You are clueless what we were discussing. I never said I knew he had knowledge. I don't care!!! You like butting in saying what others said/asked. You notice how no one has responded once I post about the kids testifying? Please stop with your racist trolling.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #876 on: February 04, 2018, 11:11:59 PM »
They had to prove he knowingly hired child labor. He was found innocent because they could not prove that. Not that there wasn't children working there. That was undisputed.
There are underage workers at every. Single. Meat packing. Plant. They provide fake IDs which come up clean even on e-verify.

When you come up with a solution, please enlighten the hundreds, if not thousands, of human resource managers who deal with this every single day.

You've repeatedly refused to address my comments. Which is fine. If you only like to answer certain members, cool. But you don't get to be Mr Goalposts and Mr Answers Every Question if you ignore the most basic point of the case.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #877 on: February 04, 2018, 11:16:50 PM »
There are underage workers at every. Single. Meat packing. Plant. They provide fake IDs which come up clean even on e-verify.

When you come up with a solution, please enlighten the hundreds, if not thousands, of human resource managers who deal with this every single day.

You've repeatedly refused to address my comments. Which is fine. If you only like to answer certain members, cool. But you don't get to be Mr Goalposts and Mr Answers Every Question if you ignore the most basic point of the case.
Sorry did not mean to ignore your post. You come up with valid points. I am glad you posted for everyone to see that there were children working at this plant and according to you at all these plants. The thing is I don't care when it comes to children. That is not just about this individual. I would say the exact same thing if it was the Pope. It is not my job to come up with a solution and I am not going to try.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #878 on: February 04, 2018, 11:17:57 PM »
You are clueless what we were discussing. I never said I knew he had knowledge. I don't care!!! You like butting in saying what others said/asked. You notice how no one has responded once I post about the kids testifying? Please stop with your racist trolling.
Except that is what they were all saying. If it makes you feel good to be saying a Jew was guilty of crimes go ahead that is what you do in each thread which discusses anyone accused of anything. If you want to play that card then I can too. (Besides of course that you are forgetting how about a week ago it was just the opposite and I was defending your statement)
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #879 on: February 04, 2018, 11:23:39 PM »
Except that is what they were all saying. If it makes you feel good to be saying a Jew was guilty of crimes go ahead that is what you do in each thread which discusses anyone accused of anything. If you want to play that card then I can too. (Besides of course that you are forgetting how about a week ago it was just the opposite and I was defending your statement)
Again you are wrong. My main discussion was with gozalim about there being child labor at the plant.

He was found innocent of these charges as I have said many times. Nice try but keep digging that hole.

When you come out of nowhere to troll me then yes I believe it is your racist tendencies.

In case you haven't notice I am the minority here not you.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #880 on: February 04, 2018, 11:26:40 PM »
Sorry did not mean to ignore your post. You come up with valid points. I am glad you posted for everyone to see that there were children working at this plant and according to you at all these plants. The thing is I don't care when it comes to children. That is not just about this individual. I would say the exact same thing if it was the Pope. It is not my job to come up with a solution and I am not going to try.
No one denied there were underage workers there. It's a strawman that *you* created and beat down. Saying you would feel the same if it was the pope says nothing about agri's actions, it's just empty moral grandstanding on your part which has no bearing on Rubashkin.

Even with the testimony of the minors (which was fraught with contradictions and many issues) he was cleared. Because he did nothing wrong (in that regard). You thinking that you're "all about the kids" without even a semblance of a clue how anyone should solve the problem doesn't make anyone else guilty, it just makes you feel good about yourself.


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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #881 on: February 04, 2018, 11:29:16 PM »
Again you are wrong. My main discussion was with gozalim about there being child labor at the plant.

He was found innocent of these charges as I have said many times. Nice try but keep digging that hole.

When you come out of nowhere to troll me then yes I believe it is your racist tendencies.

In case you haven't notice I am the minority here not you.
My point was how you ignored what @Yehuda57 wrote more than once. Even now you admit you have no solution. They are not allowed to research so therefore they would not know if they were underage.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #882 on: February 04, 2018, 11:29:35 PM »
No one denied there were underage workers there.
This is not true. That was the main discussion gozalim and I were having.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #883 on: February 04, 2018, 11:31:31 PM »
My point was how you ignored what @Yehuda57 wrote more than once. Even now you admit you have no solution. They are not allowed to research so therefore they would not know if they were underage.
Again the main discussion was between gozalim and I. It was about if the plant had child labor not if he knew about it. You butt in the middle then claim you know what we were discussing.
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Re: Rubashkin freed from prison.
« Reply #884 on: February 04, 2018, 11:34:47 PM »
This is not true. That was the main discussion gozalim and I were having.
Then you don't know how to read. Gozalim never made any such claim.
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