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ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« on: December 23, 2017, 05:46:37 PM »
Air France.
www.airfrance.com
Many available dates Jan & Feb.
Stopover Paris.
Sample attached.

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2017, 05:49:55 PM »
Air France.
Many available dates Jan & Feb.
Stopover Paris.
Sample attached.
Double the flight time, stopover, and 2-3x coach price to fly business? Not worth it IMO

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2017, 05:52:32 PM »
It's also not a real J IIRC

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2017, 05:56:54 PM »
Double the flight time, stopover, and 2-3x coach price to fly business? Not worth it IMO
Cheapest non-stop is $330 - that's not 2x price and 1hr 15min connection doesn't double flight time

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2017, 05:58:50 PM »
It's also not a real J IIRC
Not sure why you think Air France J is fake ;)

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2017, 06:03:03 PM »
Not sure why you think Air France J is fake ;)
Its economy with middle seat blocked...def not “business “ ...

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2017, 06:06:56 PM »
You tell me. 1 inch extra legroom and 0 extra recline (I forgot that the middle seat is also blocked out )

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2017, 06:07:17 PM »
Cheapest non-stop is $330 - that's not 2x price and 1hr 15min connection doesn't double flight time
For these specific dates yea, forgot that easy jet doesn’t fly from Zurich but they do from GVA or CDG. The flights add 3 hours, CDG is west of ZRH, TLV is east. Lastly check out the seating arrangements. Cool deal on paper, terrible in practice.

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2017, 06:22:07 PM »
For these specific dates yea, forgot that easy jet doesn’t fly from Zurich but they do from GVA or CDG. The flights add 3 hours, CDG is west of ZRH, TLV is east. Lastly check out the seating arrangements. Cool deal on paper, terrible in practice.
Nobody forcing you to take it ;)
For some people it may be worth the lounge access, extra miles, extra space, boarding priority and baggage.
But feel free to delete the post if you think it's so bad 8)

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2017, 06:34:29 PM »
Nobody forcing you to take it ;)
For some people it may be worth the lounge access, extra miles, extra space, boarding priority and baggage.
But feel free to delete the post if you think it's so bad 8)
Not at all !! Just saying for the ppl that don’t know and think they’re getting lie flats...

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2017, 06:45:45 PM »
Not at all !! Just saying for the ppl that don’t know and think they’re getting lie flats...
Europeans aren't stupid enough to think they are getting lie flat in biz on AF zrh-tlv.
Just like americans don't think they getting lie flat in biz on a route like nyc-mia.
I suppose some americans ARE stupid enough to expect lie flat on AF zrh-tlv so you may actually be helping them by pointing it out ;D
« Last Edit: December 23, 2017, 06:51:11 PM by bklyn »

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2017, 11:16:53 PM »
Europeans aren't stupid enough to think they are getting lie flat in biz on AF zrh-tlv.
Just like americans don't think they getting lie flat in biz on a route like nyc-mia.
I suppose some americans ARE stupid enough to expect lie flat on AF zrh-tlv so you may actually be helping them by pointing it out ;D
It isn't just that it is not lie flat. The seat is exactly the same as the economy seat.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2017, 11:49:44 PM »
It isn't just that it is not lie flat. The seat is exactly the same as the economy seat.
There are a few levels between economy and lie-flat when it comes to airline seats. Many won't consider fake J to be one of those levels. It's the exact same seat as economy.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2017, 11:55:28 PM »
Nobody forcing you to take it ;)
For some people it may be worth the lounge access, extra miles, extra space, boarding priority and baggage.
But feel free to delete the post if you think it's so bad 8)
It would be costing $220 and doubling the travel time. There are good Priority Pass options in ZRH. How much does the extra luggage cost to buy in Y? You are paying quite a bit to have an empty seat next to you and priority boarding.
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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2017, 12:03:04 AM »
Europeans aren't stupid enough to think they are getting lie flat in biz on AF zrh-tlv.
Just like americans don't think they getting lie flat in biz on a route like nyc-mia.
I suppose some americans ARE stupid enough to expect lie flat on AF zrh-tlv so you may actually be helping them by pointing it out ;D
Except that you can fly lie-flat ZRH-TLV as well as NYC-MIA.
Don't see how this is a deal myself. No need to delete, just need to disclose that it's a Y seat.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2017, 12:14:58 AM by Dan »
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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2017, 12:11:55 AM »
Except that you can fly lie-flat ZRH-TLV as well as MIA-TLV.
Don't see how this is a deal myself. No need to delete, just need to disclose that it's a Y seat.
Did you mean to write MIA-NYC (which is what @bklyn was comparing to).

I would rather fly Y NYC-FLL than lie-flat NYC-MIA if those were my choices (assuming similar prices).
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2017, 12:14:39 AM »
Did you mean to write MIA-NYC (which is what @bklyn was comparing to).
Indeed.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: ZRH - TLV $504 BUSINESS CLASS Return
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2017, 02:33:23 AM »
It would be costing $220 and doubling the travel time. There are good Priority Pass options in ZRH. How much does the extra luggage cost to buy in Y? You are paying quite a bit to have an empty seat next to you and priority boarding.
Luggage is actually quite cheap on af intra euro $20 if you have basic ffp at af (silver)