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Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« on: December 24, 2017, 11:26:11 PM »
This probably belongs in the halacha thread, but I'm sure some people would get offended.
I'm seeing many people posting today on Facebook pictures of their Chinese food and commenting that they are yotzeh the din of nittul nacht. I was under the impression the mitzvah is on the 25th בדוקה, because that's the day when all the other restaurants are closed. On Christmas eve, most are still open till at least late afternoon,so there's a legitimate אפשרות that you can get food other than Chinese, so בסתמה, there's no specific mitzvah of Chinese on the 24th.
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2017, 11:28:24 PM »
Needs to be after shika on the 24th and before chatzos halayla tonight.
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2017, 11:42:29 PM »
Needs to be after shika on the 24th and before chatzos halayla tonight.
Tonight being the 24th into the 25th?or before chatzos on 25/26?
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2017, 11:49:10 PM »
Tonight being the 24th into the 25th?or before chatzos on 25/26?
Same z'man as everything on Nittel Nacht :)
Shkia on the 24th until Chatzos tonight.
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2017, 11:51:06 PM »
But why is it at all tonight? Logically it should be the 24th when everything is closed
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2017, 11:55:42 PM »
But why is it at all tonight? Logically it should be the 24th when everything is closed
What made you think logic had anything to do with it?
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Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2017, 11:58:06 PM »
Maybe it has something to do with this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nittel_Nacht

"After the advent of the Gregorian Calendar, Orthodox Christians and Catholic Christians observed Christmas Eve on two separate dates; this led to Rabbinic debate, and Nittel Nacht is observed in accordance with the local Christian community. Certain pious Jews observed Nittel Nacht twice each year."
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2017, 02:14:22 AM »
Maybe it has something to do with this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nittel_Nacht

"After the advent of the Gregorian Calendar, Orthodox Christians and Catholic Christians observed Christmas Eve on two separate dates; this led to Rabbinic debate, and Nittel Nacht is observed in accordance with the local Christian community. Certain pious Jews observed Nittel Nacht twice each year."
Second time being January 6th.. not the 24th
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2017, 02:15:15 AM »
Second time being January 6th.. not the 24th
My post was in jest anyway.
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2017, 11:33:18 AM »
"Certain pious Jews observed Nittel Nacht twice each year."

Other even more pious Jews are machmir for 6 months before and 6 months after.

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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2017, 11:07:46 AM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2017, 11:09:19 AM »
Does sushi count?

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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2017, 12:10:53 PM »
some people are makpid on nittel 6 months before and after .............................

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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2017, 12:11:56 PM »
some people are makpid on nittel 6 months before and after .............................
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Re: Chinese on Christmas eve or day
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2017, 12:48:41 PM »
Other even more pious Jews are machmir for 6 months before and 6 months after.

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Was going to say that some ppl are machmir the whole year lest they forget on layl nittel.
I do believe that Chinese minhag is on 25th, with a remez from facts that one local Chinese place had 3 hour wait last night, and another stopped taking orders.