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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #600 on: June 29, 2018, 08:22:42 AM »
I'm trying to plan a week-long trip to Japan - arriving Monday afternoon/evening, leaving the following Monday (or possibly Sunday).

I was gonna stick to Tokyo, but then @moish told me there's not that much to do in Tokyo anyway, and I'm better off with Kyoto. So... I'm thinking to do most of the time in Kyoto, with a little time in Tokyo.

My initial plan was to land in Tokyo on Monday, stay there until Wednesday, and then take a bullet train to Kyoto, and stay there until Monday. But now I'm having second thoughts... Should I go to Kyoto first through the end of the week, and then do Tokyo from Thursday or Friday until Monday (or possibly only until Sunday)?

I'll be traveling with my wife and baby, which complicates things Shabbos-wise - I'll need to stay as close to Chabad as possible, so that I can (hopefully) get a non-Jew to push the stroller there and back. I prefer to stick to SPG (or Marriott), since I'm SPG Plat, so Tokyo is great for that - there's a Sheraton right near Chabad. Not sure what the story is with Kyoto, though... also, the Kyoto Chabad house appears to be "unofficial" - should that worry me?

Basically... any advice, peeps? :)
My 2 cents...

Get a JR pass, it's the best deal in Japan travel.

Decide if you want to spend Shabbos in Tokyo or Kobe and plan backwards.

If Shabbos in Tokyo, try to tack an additional leg to FUK, HIJ, ITM, UKB, or KIX to start off in the southern part of the main Island.

If FUK or HIJ then spend the night in Hiroshima and tour on Tuesday. Wednesday stop at Himeji castle on your way to Kyoto. Spend Wednesday and Thursday nights in Kyoto (the SPG property in Arashiyama looked awesome, but we didn't stay there) and take a Friday afternoon train to Tokyo. Get off at Shinagawa station and just catch a cab to the Sheraton.

Fly out Monday.

Other option is to fly into one of the other three, pick a hotel in Kyoto, Osaka, or Kobe and day trip by train to Hiroshima and Himeji.

Tons of sites to see in Kyoto, but 1.5 days is probably about right. One day in Tokyo will feel short, but you can pack a lot in.

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #601 on: June 29, 2018, 09:18:15 AM »
Himeji castle is awesome!

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #602 on: June 30, 2018, 07:41:14 PM »
IMO, aside from Tsukiji + Tuna auction, not much to do in Tokyo. Much better to go to Kyoto. If you can swing Himeji and/or Hiroshima, all the better

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #603 on: July 01, 2018, 08:46:54 AM »
So after a lot of deliberation, we settled on 7 nights in Tokyo... just Tokyo. *ducks and hides*

Decided this for 2 reasons: (1) we generally like to take things slower than most people, and (2) it's our first major trip with Babybatchy, so he's a wildcard - can't be too sure how he'll react to jetlag, etc, and thus need to leave plenty of wiggle room in the schedule, just in case. Also need to minimize the jumping around from city to city for the same reason.

First order of business: how do I get 2 adults, 1 baby, and 4 or 5 suitcases from Narita Airport to the Sheraton Miyako (the one near Chabad) without paying a king's ransom? I checked an online Uber fare estimator, and basically one-way will cost $250 or more. :o On the other hand, with a baby and all that luggage, can't really schlep on and off multiple trains/buses...

There's got to be a better way. What is it?

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #604 on: July 01, 2018, 09:38:24 AM »
Hate to say it, but find a way to travel lighter. Why do you need so much luggage?
Also please at least switch hotels if you're staying a week in Tokyo.
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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #605 on: July 01, 2018, 09:53:33 AM »
So, the plot thickens...

After doing a bunch of research on my own, as well as calling the Sheraton to ask them what they recommend, I've come to realize that the biggest obstacle is the fact that my flight is scheduled to land at 9:00 PM. This poses a problem because the last "shuttle bus" directly to the Sheraton leaves at 9:35 PM; and after that there are only trains at 10 PM and 11 PM, with the 11 PM train being the only one that would take me directly to the Sheraton's neighborhood without requiring any train changes (see attached screenshot). That means probably not being in my hotel room before 1 AM, which will be a disaster for traveling with a baby... Does anyone have any better ideas?
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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #606 on: July 01, 2018, 09:54:13 AM »
Yuuge mistake. Send your luggage ahead with the luggage delivery services and take the Shinkansen to Kyoto.

And as Dan said, theres absolutely no reason to travel so heavy. I dont carry that much with 4 kids

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #607 on: July 01, 2018, 09:55:41 AM »
Hate to say it, but find a way to travel lighter. Why do you need so much luggage?

I wish... problem is, this is part of a much larger trip. Also, I still haven't taken your advice about ditching the Bugaboo, so that's an entire (oversized) suitcase by itself. :P

Also please at least switch hotels if you're staying a week in Tokyo.

LOL. Good luck convincing my wife that it's worth it.  ;D

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #608 on: July 01, 2018, 09:58:11 AM »
Yuuge mistake. Send your luggage ahead with the luggage delivery services and take the Shinkansen to Kyoto.

That ship has sailed, hun. 🤷🏻‍♂️


And as Dan said, theres absolutely no reason to travel so heavy. I dont carry that much with 4 kids

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #609 on: July 01, 2018, 10:00:25 AM »
That ship has sailed, hun. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Fair enough. Just trying to save you from a colossal waste of time

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #610 on: July 01, 2018, 10:01:30 AM »
I'm so curious, how do you fill 4-5 suitcases?
Sounds like a nightmare to travel with.
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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #611 on: July 01, 2018, 10:02:46 AM »
So, the plot thickens...

After doing a bunch of research on my own, as well as calling the Sheraton to ask them what they recommend, I've come to realize that the biggest obstacle is the fact that my flight is scheduled to land at 9:00 PM. This poses a problem because the last "shuttle bus" directly to the Sheraton leaves at 9:35 PM; and after that there are only trains at 10 PM and 11 PM, with the 11 PM train being the only one that would take me directly to the Sheraton's neighborhood without requiring any train changes (see attached screenshot). That means probably not being in my hotel room before 1 AM, which will be a disaster for traveling with a baby... Does anyone have any better ideas?
Those trains are probably the best ideas, sorry. Taxis in Tokyo are $$$$$$.
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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #612 on: July 01, 2018, 10:03:41 AM »
LOL. Good luck convincing my wife that it's worth it.  ;D
The Andaz and PH are some of the best hotels in the world. Amazing service and facilities. The Sheraton is...a Sheraton and that's about it.
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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #613 on: July 01, 2018, 10:04:58 AM »
Sounds like a nightmare to travel with.

It is.

I'm so curious, how do you fill 4-5 suitcases?

Wait... are we here to help me figure out my transportation dilemma, or to grill me about the contents of my luggage?  :-\

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Re: Japan Master Thread
« Reply #614 on: July 01, 2018, 10:06:56 AM »
It is.

Wait... are we here to help me figure out my transportation dilemma, or to grill me about the contents of my luggage?  :-\
Hainu hach. With 5 suitcases, enjoy the $500 RT cab ride.
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