Women in Jewish magazines

[shlonx]

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/who-needs-rabbinic-leadership-a-call-for-orthodox-organizations-to-heed-the-voices-of-the-women-they-cannot-see/

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Voted.

[yoohoo]

Too general. As in advertisement material? I would say yes but with very strict guidelines

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Who's the 4 sexist so far in the poll?

[shlonx]

Too general. As in advertisement material? I would say yes but with very strict guidelines

How about a profile picture of an interveiwee?

[ExGingi]

Who's the 4 sexist so far in the poll?

Voted.

Why are you assuming anyone is sexist? Why name calling?

[mgarfin]

Anything we want to change we need to answer these questions
Are we saying we were wrong up until now?
Did the halacha change or was it only chasidus? What would it not apply anymore.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Why are you assuming anyone is sexist?

You do have a point. If they didn't allow blacks I guess that isn't racist. 

[aygart]

The big issue will be that there is no way these publications could make anyone happy with defining tznius.

[Dan]

The big issue will be that there is no way these publications could make anyone happy with defining tznius.

Why not?
Speak to appropriate LORs and make a known guideline.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

The big issue will be that there is no way these publications could make anyone happy with defining tznius.

So that is why they don't have pictures of girls/women?

[aygart]

Why not?
Speak to appropriate LORs and make a known guideline.

Much of tznius is subjective. Anyone who thinks it is a bunch of lines missed the boat.

[aygart]

So that is why they don't have pictures of girls/women?

It is definitely the easy way out to avoid having a big advertiser submit an ad which may be suggestive even with all lines kept to and have to deal with explaining to the advertiser why the ad they spent money on making doesn't meet the standards.

[Dan]

It is definitely the easy way out to avoid having a big advertiser submit an ad which may be suggestive even with all lines kept to and have to deal with explaining to the advertiser why the ad they spent money on making doesn't meet the standards.

Sounds better than this:

[ChaimMoskowitz]

It is definitely the easy way out to avoid having a big advertiser submit an ad which may be suggestive even with all lines kept to and have to deal with explaining to the advertiser why the ad they spent money on making doesn't meet the standards.

I understand it is an easy way out but I am asking is that the real reason they have no pictures of girls/women.

[aygart]

Sounds better than this:

That is definitely overboard but is also an extreme lack of creativity on the designer's part.

[ExGingi]

The big issue will be that there is no way these publications could make anyone happy with defining tznius.

Indeed, though some of the examples in the article are beyond ridiculous (women's shopping spree for example).

Much of tznius is subjective. Anyone who thinks it is a bunch of lines missed the boat.

The hardest thing is to get people to understand and realize that. Especially in today's day and age, where people are looking for brief, instant answers, rather than actually immersing oneself in the topic and understand it in a way that one actually gets their own sense of tznius.

[aygart]

I understand it is an easy way out but I am asking is that the real reason they have no pictures of girls/women.

Some of the more chassidish it is ideological. That has at this point spilled over into other communities as well. I think some is not having the backbone or the interest in standing up to those who go overboard but some is also to avoid what would become constant haggling over standards.

[aygart]

Indeed, though some of the examples in the article are beyond ridiculous (women's shopping spree for example).

That was likely more of a bad attempt at humor than anything else. They could have easily had a picture without the men there which would have looked fine.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Some of the more chassidish it is ideological. That has at this point spilled over into other communities as well. I think some is not having the backbone or the interest in standing up to those who go overboard but some is also to avoid what would become constant haggling over standards.

How do you think this effects boys views of girls/women with never seeing them in publications?