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Do you think heimishe magazines should show pictures of tzniusdig women?

Sure! Why not?
No way
Only of Jewish women

Author Topic: Women in Jewish magazines  (Read 68718 times)

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2017, 11:31:37 PM »
How do you think this effects boys views of girls/women with never seeing them in publications?
Dunno. How do you think it would?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2017, 11:34:40 PM »
Dunno. How do you think it would?
It cant be a good thing.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2017, 11:38:20 PM »
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2017, 11:40:59 PM »
why not?
Think hard and you might figure it out.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2017, 11:47:15 PM »
I understand it is an easy way out but I am asking is that the real reason they have no pictures of girls/women.
Because men cant be trusted to look at women and not get "thoughts".
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2017, 11:49:27 PM »
How do you think this effects boys views of girls/women with never seeing them in publications?
Many of us here grew up that way. Never had a negative effect. I had sisters, mother, aunts, relatives, neighbors etc. & not showing them in publications did not make me respect them any less.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2017, 11:53:29 PM »
Sounds better than this:

That was an ad in a local Monsey circular. I also thought it looked a bit weird, but it was in a frum, chassidish publication, so I understood, sort of. But why is the author of the article going around and canvassing the globe for such examples? Can't she understand that some communities are more frum than the others, and have their own guidelines?

Why not?
Speak to appropriate LORs and make a known guideline.

Mishpacha and Ami cater to a very wide spectrum of people, from Mizrachi to Satmar. Who should their Rabbis be?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2017, 11:55:00 PM »
Do they not seek guidance when discussing any topics or when questions arise? Who do they turn to?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2017, 11:55:42 PM »
Many of us here grew up that way. Never had a negative effect. I had sisters, mother, aunts, relatives, neighbors etc. & not showing them in publications did not make me respect them any less.
Does girls growing up playing with Barbie dolls instead of erector sets make them less likely to grow up wanting to be engineers? There are unintended consequence to everything thing we do. If you think this doesn't affect girls and boys you are fooling yourself.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2017, 11:56:27 PM »
Mishpacha and Ami cater to a very wide spectrum of people, from Mizrachi to Satmar. Who should their Rabbis be?
And don't answer that they should speak to their own because that can preclude them from selling to certain communities with different standards.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2017, 11:59:17 PM »
Does girls growing up playing with Barbie dolls instead of erector sets make them less likely to grow up wanting to be engineers? There are unintended consequence to everything thing we do. If you think this doesn't affect girls and boys you are fooling yourself.
english please

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2017, 12:00:49 AM »
english please
What part don't you understand and we can take it one step at a time?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2017, 12:03:50 AM »
What part don't you understand and we can take it one step at a time?
I tried and you just told me to
Think hard and you might figure it out.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2017, 12:05:04 AM »
What part don't you understand and we can take it one step at a time?
Are you saying that I respect women any less because they weren’t all over my reading material ?

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2017, 12:07:55 AM »
Are you saying that I respect women any less because they were banned from my reading material?
FTFY
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2017, 12:08:52 AM »
Are you saying that I respect women any less because they weren’t all over my reading material ?
I am saying it will effect how you view them. What about school books? Are they stricken from them also?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2017, 12:10:11 AM »
I am saying it will effect how you view them.
BS.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2017, 12:12:39 AM »
BS.
I guess you believe less is more.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2017, 12:13:55 AM »
I am saying it will effect how you view them. What about school books? Are they stricken from them also?
How about the way women are depicted in secular publications such as the ads in the NYT? How does that affect how people will view women? Is that better or worse?
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