Women in Jewish magazines

[TimT]

I guess you believe less is more.

Are women treated with more respect in circles where they’re in the publications ?
Ask the metoo movement how it’s working out

[ChaimMoskowitz]

How about the way women are depicted in secular publications such as the ads in the NYT? How does that affect how people will view women? Is that better or worse?

Thanks for making my point for me. Some might say it is better or worse but most will agree it has an affect especially at a younger age.

[ExGingi]

Many of us here grew up that way. Never had a negative effect. I had sisters, mother, aunts, relatives, neighbors etc. & not showing them in publications did not make me respect them any less.

Which is exactly why I asked

Why are you assuming anyone is sexist? Why name calling?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Ask the metoo movement how it’s working out

...and of course this doesn't happen in religious circles. 

[TimT]

...and of course this doesn't happen in religious circles. 

Been happening far worse elsewhere. Which just proves my point that it had no effect.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Been happening far worse elsewhere.

Are you sure it is far worse? One of the worse child abuse scandals we had involved religion.

[TimT]

Are you sure it is far worse? One of the worse child abuse scandals we had involved religion.

I didn’t realize this thread was about child abuse. My apologies

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I didn’t realize this thread was about child abuse. My apologies

You brought in the meto movement.

[TimT]

You brought in the meto movement.

Yes. Where women are letting the world know how they’ve been treated.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Yes. Where women are letting the world know how they’ve been treated.

Wasn't the real problem the power the men had over the women? Are you trying to prove my point for me? 

[ExGingi]

sex·ist
adjective
adjective: sexist
1. relating to or characterized by prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.

Why might anyone (who isn't himself prejudiced) rush to conclude that not allowing pictures of women in publications is done because of "prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination"?

[TimT]

Wasn't the real problem the power the men had over the women? Are you trying to prove my point for me? 

No. just proves my point that having photos of women doesn’t cause men to respect women any more than not showing photos. If one is a gentleman he’ll respect them regardless.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

No. just proves my point that having photos of women doesn’t cause men to respect women any more than not showing photos. If one is a gentleman he’ll respect them regardless.

1 - You disagreeing the real problem is men having power over women (meto scandal)?
2 - I said it will affect you. You for some reason keep bringing up respect. Some might think it is a guilt complex.

[aygart]

Are you sure it is far worse? One of the worse child abuse scandals we had involved religion.

They did not have the women removed from their publications. We are not discussing religion in general but rather this specific policy. Why are you bringing in a case where they did not have this policy?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Why might anyone (who isn't himself prejudiced) rush to conclude that not allowing pictures of women in publications is done because of "prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination"?

Probably some saying about a duck.

[yhaller14]

Does girls growing up playing with Barbie dolls instead of erector sets make them less likely to grow up wanting to be engineers? There are unintended consequence to everything thing we do. If you think this doesn't affect girls and boys you are fooling yourself.

Who says anyone wants their daughters to be engineers?!

[ExGingi]

Probably some saying about a duck.

Or some major cultural differences. (unless it's just plain old prejudice towards people that see things differently).

[aygart]

Probably some saying about a duck.

Unless the ugly duckling is a beautiful swan.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Who says anyone wants their daughters to be engineers?!

That's another problem. Taking the choice away from our daughters.

[TimT]

1 - You disagreeing the real problem is men having power over women (meto scandal)?
2 - I said it will affect you. You for some reason keep bringing up respect. Some might think it is a guilt complex.

When I mention respect I’m referring to this

boys views of girls/women

Is there a different “view” I’m not aware of ? Please do tell