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Do you think heimishe magazines should show pictures of tzniusdig women?

Sure! Why not?
No way
Only of Jewish women

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #180 on: December 31, 2017, 04:37:32 PM »
CNN and FOX are saying too close to call.
Anyone have the NYTimes prediction?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #181 on: December 31, 2017, 04:38:32 PM »
They were all just in ORD last week!
Yeah, but by now they should all be near their polling places.

Any word on when polling booths close?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #182 on: December 31, 2017, 04:39:44 PM »
CNN and FOX are saying too close to call.
Anyone have the NYTimes prediction?
What about FiveThirtyEight and Zogby?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #183 on: December 31, 2017, 04:40:08 PM »
Yeah, but by now they should all be near their polling places.

Any word on when polling booths close?
wadaya mean! ORD is THE place for that!
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #184 on: December 31, 2017, 04:41:01 PM »
wadaya mean! ORD is THE place for that!
I thought over there one doesn't even need a pulse in order to vote.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #185 on: December 31, 2017, 04:44:02 PM »
Time for a DDF magazine with CM as Rabbi. Obviously anything goes

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #186 on: December 31, 2017, 04:48:28 PM »
Time for a DDF magazine with CM as Rabbi. Obviously anything goes
Where are the advertising $$$ coming from?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #187 on: December 31, 2017, 04:51:12 PM »
Where are the advertising $$$ coming from?
CMs job of course.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #188 on: December 31, 2017, 04:53:33 PM »
CMs job of course.
Will he be advertising or will he be selling ads to JTZ, CV, HM et al.?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #189 on: December 31, 2017, 04:58:28 PM »
Where are the advertising $$$ coming from?
From the thousands who are offended by the ones leaving women out!
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #190 on: December 31, 2017, 05:00:17 PM »
I think we need the poll in יידיש we may get completely different results.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #191 on: December 31, 2017, 08:34:31 PM »
Is it indeed humiliating?

Reminds me of when my kids complain about someone bothering them. More often than not, it's the choice of the person being bothered as to whether they are bothered or not.

I don't understand. The author condemns how women have been obliterated from these publications. Yet women are constantly featured, discussed and praised in these magazines. It's just their photograph that doesn't appear. Are they saying that a women's entire worth is in her appearance, not her education, achievements and career?

The editor of the Mishpacha is a woman. The editor of the Hamodia is a woman. The editor of the Family First is a woman. The editor of the Ami Living is a woman.

These publications have steady female columnists who are successful psychologists, educators, doctors, and business professionals, not to mention rebbetzins.

What is humiliating about not having your picture?

I've read countless articles in various academic journals. None of them have pictures of the professors who authored them, just their names.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #192 on: December 31, 2017, 09:37:02 PM »
I don't understand. The author condemns how women have been obliterated from these publications. Yet women are constantly featured, discussed and praised in these magazines. It's just their photograph that doesn't appear. Are they saying that a women's entire worth is in her appearance, not her education, achievements and career?

The editor of the Mishpacha is a woman. The editor of the Hamodia is a woman. The editor of the Family First is a woman. The editor of the Ami Living is a woman.

These publications have steady female columnists who are successful psychologists, educators, doctors, and business professionals, not to mention rebbetzins.

What is humiliating about not having your picture?

I've read countless articles in various academic journals. None of them have pictures of the professors who authored them, just their names.
only difference is  they dont have pictures of any authors male or female.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #193 on: December 31, 2017, 09:52:00 PM »
i find interesting that the author of that article is calling on rabbinic leadership to do the right  thing by following her views
seems like she is confused on the definition of rabbinic leadership.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #194 on: December 31, 2017, 10:22:12 PM »
only difference is  they dont have pictures of any authors male or female.

Right, which shows that its the content that matters, no? And that their picture doesn't define them; they don't feel "humiliated" when their picture isn't shown.

Not all columns in heimishe publications have pictures of their authors, either.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #195 on: December 31, 2017, 10:26:54 PM »
Right, which shows that its the content that matters, no? And that their picture doesn't define them; they don't feel "humiliated" when their picture isn't shown.

Not all columns in heimishe publications have pictures of their authors, either.
Someone please post the missed the point gif...

Here tattelleh...we will spoonfeed it to you so you get it...every male writer in the frum publications can have his picture posted. No women are accorded the same respect.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #196 on: December 31, 2017, 10:35:16 PM »

Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #197 on: December 31, 2017, 10:35:26 PM »
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #198 on: December 31, 2017, 10:54:03 PM »
Someone please post the missed the point gif...

Here tattelleh...we will spoonfeed it to you so you get it...every male writer in the frum publications can have his picture posted. No women are accorded the same respect.

Point boomeranged, came around and hit me in the face.

Still, is it "humiliating" not to be offered to have your picture? Disrespectful, as you put it? Do the women in the magazine even want their pictures in? If they want their pictures printed alongside their articles, they can submit them to publications that will do so. Why demand of the heimeshe publications to accede to their demands?

Ms. Keats Jaskoll published her article in a place that gladly puts the author's picture in, and she is entitled to do so, obviously. She is free to read and publish in places that have women's pictures. But why impose her demands on other communities that don't?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #199 on: January 01, 2018, 12:08:29 AM »
Point boomeranged, came around and hit me in the face.

Still, is it "humiliating" not to be offered to have your picture? Disrespectful, as you put it? Do the women in the magazine even want their pictures in? If they want their pictures printed alongside their articles, they can submit them to publications that will do so. Why demand of the heimeshe publications to accede to their demands?

Ms. Keats Jaskoll published her article in a place that gladly puts the author's picture in, and she is entitled to do so, obviously. She is free to read and publish in places that have women's pictures. But why impose her demands on other communities that don't?
Impose her demands. You guys make it sound like its such a burden. Oy, these impossible women. Misogyny, much?

The question still remains, where, when and how did this become the norm in orthodox publications? When did little girls become sexualized that frum men cannot be trusted to look at them? When did tznius dressed women become vixens to be avoided at all costs.
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