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Do you think heimishe magazines should show pictures of tzniusdig women?

Sure! Why not?
No way
Only of Jewish women

Author Topic: Women in Jewish magazines  (Read 57837 times)

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #300 on: January 01, 2018, 02:28:21 PM »
Easy mistake to make, but not too hard to tell them apart. Only one of them will kidnap and dismember you for practicing the wrong religion.
When I get real confused I just start my comment "On DDF" and see if they go crazy.  :)
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #301 on: January 01, 2018, 02:32:00 PM »
In order to participate in JS discussions, you need a minimum of English writing skills.
LOL
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #302 on: January 01, 2018, 02:35:31 PM »
So all the 'religion based' decisions comes down to money. Interesting.

No, all the business decisions come down to money.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #303 on: January 02, 2018, 03:00:00 AM »

That does not sound like a reasonable response. See chava for example of what happens when you make whats mutar assur.
???   Oh yes??? How much does the חובות הלבבות elaborate on ...היו פורשים משבעים שערים של היתר שלא ליכשל בשער אחד של איסור? What does the mishna in Avos mean with all the גדרים וסייגים?

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #304 on: January 02, 2018, 03:00:22 AM »
And I must say, the poll has been very enlightening.
In what way?

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #305 on: January 02, 2018, 03:00:39 AM »
Bottom line, we gotta figure out a way to make all DDF'his and DDF’hers feel welcome at DO’s. :)
FTFY  :D

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #306 on: January 02, 2018, 06:33:18 AM »
Bottom line, we gotta figure out a way to make all DDF’hers feel welcome at DO’s. :)

I went to a DO. Nobody seemed extremely uncomfortable, except after eating the flowers

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #307 on: January 02, 2018, 05:08:10 PM »







Drawings of girls, never pictures

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #308 on: January 02, 2018, 05:37:57 PM »
???   Oh yes??? How much does the חובות הלבבות elaborate on ...היו פורשים משבעים שערים של היתר שלא ליכשל בשער אחד של איסור? What does the mishna in Avos mean with all the גדרים וסייגים?

Yada yada yada. The author of chovot halevovot was influenced by sufi islam.

The mishna in avot says a lot of things, ultimately we follow Hillel not shammai for a reason.

The gemara mocks extreme perushim, one with blood on his face because he closes his eyes to not see a woman in the street and walks into a wall.

You can pull lines from anywhere, to learn and know lines doesnt bestow one with seichel any more than repeating to me rogov's wine encyclopedia doesnt make you a wine expert.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #309 on: January 02, 2018, 05:53:54 PM »
Yada yada yada. The author of chovot halevovot was influenced by sufi islam.

The mishna in avot says a lot of things, ultimately we follow Hillel not shammai for a reason.

The gemara mocks extreme perushim, one with blood on his face because he closes his eyes to not see a woman in the street and walks into a wall.

You can pull lines from anywhere, to learn and know lines doesnt bestow one with seichel any more than repeating to me rogov's wine encyclopedia doesnt make you a wine expert.


You yada yada yada's over the best part
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #310 on: January 02, 2018, 08:47:52 PM »
Yada yada yada. The author of chovot halevovot was influenced by sufi islam.

The mishna in avot says a lot of things, ultimately we follow Hillel not shammai for a reason.

The gemara mocks extreme perushim, one with blood on his face because he closes his eyes to not see a woman in the street and walks into a wall.

You can pull lines from anywhere, to learn and know lines doesnt bestow one with seichel any more than repeating to me rogov's wine encyclopedia doesnt make you a wine expert.
as long as you agree that its not your sechel that counts its your rovs
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #311 on: January 02, 2018, 08:53:33 PM »

So if a magazine wants to sell the maximum amount of copies, it goes to the "highest common denominator".


What % of chassidishe ppl have smartphones? ( Of course there are but the number is under 50% IMHO )

And those that have how many are on DDF? And many of them aren't the Frum ones.



Regarding chassidish people here on DDF: Actually, yes, most chassidish people in my circles do not have smartphones, or computers with Internet access, and are not posting on JS for the simple reason that they spend little time on the Internet, and when they do, it's for online banking, travel arranging etc. and not for "shmoozing"‎.

So they are definitely heavily underrepresented here. And many of these are the ones buying the Mishpacha etc., since they don't buy magazines like National Geographic, Time, or Popular Science, nor do they have access to online articles.

And for them, sending a letter to the editor is more of a hassle than those hundreds of people shooting off emails to the editor as part of a mass protest, so Mishpacha won't necessarily even hear their voices.

Also, it's not something they are going to fight over. If Mishpacha is going to go against their principles, they simply will stop buying.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #312 on: January 02, 2018, 08:56:00 PM »
as long as you agree that its not your sechel that counts its your rovs

A rav in what ? Guiding you through life or ruling on issur and heter ?

The direction of orthodox judaism lacks seichel, usually judaism was tempered to that of society, regardless of those that say judaism doesnt change, it does, it adapts.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #313 on: January 02, 2018, 09:06:06 PM »
it doesnt adapt according to the way the hamon am might want it to
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #314 on: January 02, 2018, 09:28:34 PM »
it doesnt adapt according to the way the hamon am might want it to

A judge that gives down a ruling and the majority disagree... but the fact is, the masses are being misled. This extreme isolationism and the myriad of added chumros merely point to an empty belief system.

I keep hearing "there's no such thing as being too strict on pesach" oh yes there is, it led to a revulsion of judaism on my part and a long journey back complete with the fact that I will not go to my parents for the seder nor eat any shabbat or chag meal by them.

Extremists breed extreme opposition, I was not allowed to bring non jewish books in the house, this led me to hundreds of hours in the public library reading all types of garbage including Howard Stern's book.

True I would have not been as diverse and open minded had I not been forced to forge my own path.. but still

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #316 on: January 03, 2018, 03:33:58 PM »
A judge that gives down a ruling and the majority disagree... but the fact is, the masses are being misled. This extreme isolationism and the myriad of added chumros merely point to an empty belief system.

I keep hearing "there's no such thing as being too strict on pesach" oh yes there is, it led to a revulsion of judaism on my part and a long journey back complete with the fact that I will not go to my parents for the seder nor eat any shabbat or chag meal by them.

Extremists breed extreme opposition, I was not allowed to bring non jewish books in the house, this led me to hundreds of hours in the public library reading all types of garbage including Howard Stern's book.

True I would have not been as diverse and open minded had I not been forced to forge my own path.. but still
I don't agree. I think that any religion, regimen, etc., allows people with certain mental illnesses to hide their illness behind religion. You can use taharos to mask OCD, kibud at v'aim to mask narcissistic disorders, etc.
There isn't a good answer to the problem. To some extent you have to daven for the right rebbeim, teachers and mentors.

Returning to the issue at hand. Of course people who want to control people can use chumros as a way of controlling people. But it doesn't follow that all chumros therefore are meant to control people, or put down people. The fact that all murderers eat bread does not mean that bread causes murders. What you have to do is look at the other people eating bread that don't murder, and question your assumptions.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #317 on: January 03, 2018, 04:25:20 PM »
Returning to the issue at hand. Of course people who want to control people can use chumros as a way of controlling people. But it doesn't follow that all chumros therefore are meant to control people, or put down people. The fact that all murderers eat bread does not mean that bread causes murders. What you have to do is look at the other people eating bread that don't murder, and question your assumptions.
So how do you think you can tell the difference between the ones who use it to control and the ones who don't?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #318 on: January 03, 2018, 04:42:33 PM »
I miss reading the jewish press as a kid :/ though  my father didnt allow it in the bathroom.

Would love a weekly mag that was open minded, till then its WSJ and NYT weekend section

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #319 on: January 03, 2018, 04:44:50 PM »
I miss reading the jewish press as a kid :/ though  my father didnt allow it in the bathroom.

Would love a weekly mag that was open minded, till then its WSJ and NYT weekend section
Did you mean out of the bathroom?  :P