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Do you think heimishe magazines should show pictures of tzniusdig women?

Sure! Why not?
No way
Only of Jewish women

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #320 on: January 03, 2018, 04:47:37 PM »
Did you mean out of the bathroom?  :P

Actually I meant in the house... my biggest sin as a kid was that I was not allowed to listen to sportrs on the radio, I hated it... i'd use my money to buy the newspaper and read it cover to cover

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #321 on: January 03, 2018, 05:16:44 PM »
So how do you think you can tell the difference between the ones who use it to control and the ones who don't?
Sometimes, you can tell (not always) by whether they can be intellectually honest.
For example, my father did not want to buy soda for pesach because it was too expensive. But instead of saying that, he made it into a chumro. However,we all saw through it since he allowed buying other items and it wasn't across the board.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #322 on: January 03, 2018, 05:21:56 PM »
Sometimes, you can tell (not always) by whether they can be intellectually honest.
For example, my father did not want to buy soda for pesach because it was too expensive. But instead of saying that, he made it into a chumro. However,we all saw through it since he allowed buying other items and it wasn't across the board.

Halevai my biggest expense on Pesach would be soda.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #323 on: January 03, 2018, 05:22:49 PM »
Halevai my biggest expense on Pesach would be soda.
Are likes kosher l'pesach?

Or do you not feed them to your kids claiming that they're too expensive?

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #324 on: January 03, 2018, 07:23:17 PM »
Sometimes, you can tell (not always) by whether they can be intellectually honest.
For example, my father did not want to buy soda for pesach because it was too expensive. But instead of saying that, he made it into a chumro. However,we all saw through it since he allowed buying other items and it wasn't across the board.
That doesn't sound like a power grab but rather an excuse.

The better way to tell is by whether they keep to it themselves or try to impose it on others. With schools it can be a little more vague since they possibly could have some standard but it should be a standard standard and not chumros.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #325 on: January 03, 2018, 07:27:06 PM »
That doesn't sound like a power grab but rather an excuse.

The better way to tell is by whether they keep to it themselves or try to impose it on others. With schools it can be a little more vague since they possibly could have some standard but it should be a standard standard and not chumros.
You have that problem in schools, in families, in kehillos

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #327 on: February 05, 2018, 11:44:15 AM »
Why does Binah magazine not have pictures of women?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #328 on: February 05, 2018, 01:04:56 PM »
because your son might peek in accidentally :o

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #329 on: February 05, 2018, 01:06:13 PM »
because your son might peek in accidentally :o
Read by men weekly. Yeh, I couldn’t either believe it

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #330 on: February 05, 2018, 03:15:29 PM »
This tweet is a rare example of actual quality satire on the frum community.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #331 on: February 05, 2018, 06:57:31 PM »
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/refuting-mishpachas-fake-history-claim/

Well cited, indeed.

May I offer a compromise.  Publish pictures of women in black/white and taken with a 1940s camera?


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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #332 on: February 06, 2018, 09:47:42 AM »
Well cited, indeed.

May I offer a compromise.  Publish pictures of women in black/white and taken with a 1940s camera?


Sounds good to me.
I wonder if the history would look any different when researching Israeli publications
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #333 on: February 06, 2018, 11:17:47 AM »
Well cited, indeed.

May I offer a compromise.  Publish pictures of women in black/white and taken with a 1940s camera?
The question is whether women dressed up to current tznius standards back then.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #334 on: February 06, 2018, 11:24:27 AM »
The question is whether women dressed up to current tznius standards back then.
Check the pictures in the article where some of the women are wearing short sleeves.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #335 on: February 06, 2018, 11:27:59 AM »
Check the pictures in the article where some of the women are wearing short sleeves.

There's a shell underneath.  Hard to tell because of the grainy pic.

I should teach in by

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #336 on: February 06, 2018, 11:29:56 AM »
Check the pictures in the article where some of the women are wearing short sleeves.
Oh. I didn't even bother clicking on the article. I was on hiatus from this thread, and just visited it now and saw @henche's suggestion. Being that I've seen some pictures from various era, I commented as I did.
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #337 on: February 06, 2018, 12:21:23 PM »
I think the only valid point is that Mishpacha should cite their sources. And if it's one rov from 70 years ago, that for whatever reason was then a Shitas yachid but is now mainstream, cite the support from today's Rabbonim. It is an issue that is valid.
The way they are responding is as if they don't consider it to be an issue.

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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #338 on: February 06, 2018, 01:02:44 PM »
The question is whether women dressed up to current tznius standards back then.
Why is that the question?
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Re: Women in Jewish magazines
« Reply #339 on: February 06, 2018, 01:33:10 PM »
Why is that the question?
Because (if) they might have not, how does using a 1940s picture solve any issues. It might be b/w and low quality, but the dress code might not be up to par.

The magazines that don't publish pictures of women, do so regardless of how stringent the tznius standard of the pictured women is.
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