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Is your wife allowed to drive? (Females: Are you allowed to drive?)

Yes
130 (75.1%)
No
43 (24.9%)

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Author Topic: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?  (Read 124632 times)

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #260 on: January 04, 2018, 08:10:05 PM »
It's one thing to say you don't understand Kashrus.

Gedarim imposed by man should be understood.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #261 on: January 04, 2018, 08:10:37 PM »
I don't think it's because it's better or worse. It's more that there should be a "geder" in place.

...a geder from what exactly?

What sort of bad thing are we protecting women from?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #262 on: January 04, 2018, 08:15:11 PM »
It’s less tzinus to drive then to get a ride in the car. Not everyone can understand everything . I don’t claim to understand the way airline policies work etc.
With a Muhammad as your cab driver?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #263 on: January 04, 2018, 08:15:21 PM »
I don’t know why driving isn’t allowed but I think that’s why I enjoy it so much. I especially love driving in KJ. Although I gotta say, the world is preggressing and I can see women driving in kJ in 10-20 years. When my mother got married (~30 years ago) no one in KJ wore an uncovered wig. Now it’s very mainstream. It’s still ‘less frum’ but the school won’t turn you away for it.
Has it become more mainstream in kj? I actually took my driving lessons in Monroe as i was spending the summer there way back when, the instructor(nonjewish) told me she had only ever given 2 ladies driving lessons & both were in the process of moving to Monsey..

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #264 on: January 04, 2018, 10:21:04 PM »
With a Muhammad as your cab driver?

Exactly. How is it more tznius to ride in a cab with a male driver all the time

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #265 on: January 04, 2018, 11:55:31 PM »
With a Muhammad as your cab driver?



Exactly. How is it more tznius to ride in a cab with a male driver all the time
The taxi issue comes with serious issues....and halachacly ( which every thread becomes)is unacceptable in way too many instances.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #266 on: January 05, 2018, 01:06:51 AM »
That's all they know about Yiddishkeit, since the schools stress nothing else. They don't mention His Name, otherwise.
There are solid schools with very good hashkafa education. They don't think yiddishkeit is just about tznius at all, yet still it would be unacceptable for their graduating students to get their license

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #267 on: January 05, 2018, 02:26:41 AM »
Unfortunately, that's the way rules work in our communities. You have to keep the letter of the law, and that's all that matters.
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #268 on: January 05, 2018, 03:10:47 AM »
Exactly. How is it more tznius to ride in a cab with a male driver all the time
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  Being in a cab with a man may be another issue but not really the lack of tzinus. Cab drivers in general are professional about their jobs. Driving is being out there so to speak honking, changing lanes, middle finger once in a while :) etc. That may be a tzinus issue. And for the 8th time I personally wasn’t brought up with this custom and don’t follow it but I do understand where this custom can come from and it makes sense.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #269 on: January 05, 2018, 04:04:56 AM »
That's all they know about Yiddishkeit, since the schools stress nothing else. They don't mention His Name, otherwise.
If you're going to be cynical and spew fallacious statements, at least don't pass them off as fact.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #270 on: January 05, 2018, 11:41:38 AM »
The same reason men aren taught to cook. Its about power and control.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #271 on: January 05, 2018, 12:01:17 PM »
Wow, nearly a quarter of respondents' wives do not drive.

Higher than I'd thought.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #272 on: January 05, 2018, 12:54:12 PM »
Wow, nearly a quarter of respondents responded that their wives do not drive.

Higher than I'd thought.

FTFY

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #273 on: January 05, 2018, 02:36:24 PM »
how many wives drive and husbands do not ?

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #275 on: January 05, 2018, 03:47:46 PM »
If you're going to be cynical and spew fallacious statements, at least don't pass them off as fact.
Sorry, my comment wasn't meant to be taken at face value. I was making a point, though.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #276 on: January 05, 2018, 04:14:47 PM »
Huh? You think people lied?

I did...

Full disclosure here.  My wife does drive.  I checked no in the poll.

However, I did also ask for more poll options, and was denied. So not my fault.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #277 on: January 06, 2018, 06:04:04 PM »
the poll is missing options "not allowed but does anyways and paid the price".
I was kicked out of my shteeble here in Israel for allowing my wife to drive.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #278 on: January 06, 2018, 06:26:43 PM »
the poll is missing options "not allowed but does anyways and paid the price".
I was kicked out of my shteeble here in Israel for allowing my wife to drive.
More details please.
Gotten several messages from people in these situations, but everyone else has been too scared to post anything.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #279 on: January 06, 2018, 06:51:58 PM »
More details please.
Gotten several messages from people in these situations, but everyone else has been too scared to post anything.
nothing really to add. what happened was, I got a phone call one day from the gabbai of the shteeble asking to meet me, when he came he asked me if its true that my wife drives and I confirmed, so he told me that he was told by the העכערע פענסטר׳ס to kick me out if I don't sign that my wife won't drive in Israel, I told to go fly a kite and he apologized but said that he needs to ask me to stop coming to the shteeble. the end