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Author Topic: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?  (Read 124949 times)

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #620 on: May 10, 2023, 04:05:53 PM »
@YitzyS can you take this one? I promise to pay you back in likes ;)
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #621 on: May 10, 2023, 04:17:26 PM »
There hasn't been as much demand for it until a few years ago when many chassidim started moving in.

The developers often use all kinds of tactics to avoid installing sidewalks, nevermind any other pedestrian improvements.


They rarely if ever get away with it these days.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #622 on: May 10, 2023, 04:27:59 PM »
The cost to make the city "all pedestrian-friendly" would be prohibitive. The township has been little by little adding sidewalks in many areas, but they first place on one side of the street and somehow there are still regularlly people walking on the other side. It would still leave the intersection problem unsolved. Many of the streets that are the biggest issues are state or even federally controlled. That opens up to a whole new bureaucracy. The Gov would go along, but would the Dem-controlled committees in Trenton really be motivated to prioritize such large projects in a heavily R area? The infrastructure of the main roads in Lakewood were built for a mostly rural town and not for the city that it now is. The problems are much less in the developments than on the main roads.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #623 on: May 10, 2023, 04:32:52 PM »
The Gov would go along, but would the Dem-controlled committees in Trenton really be motivated to prioritize such large projects in a heavily R area?

Why don't Lakewood residents register D?

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #624 on: May 10, 2023, 04:39:00 PM »
Why don't Lakewood residents register D?

If you can't beat them, join them. Work from within.
It's not about party registration, it's the votes and affiliation of the legislators that matter.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #625 on: May 10, 2023, 04:46:44 PM »
Why don't Lakewood residents register D?

If you can't beat them, join them. Work from within.
It's not about party registration, it's the votes and affiliation of the legislators that matter.

+1 They still see the overwhelming vote for Trump, The R state senator, The R county government, the R assemblyman, The R Congressman, etc.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #626 on: May 10, 2023, 07:25:35 PM »
@YitzyS can you take this one? I promise to pay you back in likes ;)
I was busy so I gave it over to my best intern and he did a great job...

And yet, no likes from either of you >:(
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #627 on: May 10, 2023, 08:34:03 PM »
I know nothing about Lakewood, but do frum people not have the votes to prioritize things like that?
Start from the beginning please :)

The votes go for over development...

in all fairness, any new application now requires sidewalks

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #628 on: May 10, 2023, 08:35:48 PM »

And yet, no likes from either of you >:(
I'll like this post instead. I'm not sure I agree with your (first) post

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #629 on: May 10, 2023, 08:36:01 PM »
Why don't Lakewood residents register D?

If you can't beat them, join them. Work from within.


The local twp is corrupt, and anything you need from the state takes years (in short - how govt runs....). nothing to do with party lines

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #630 on: May 10, 2023, 08:36:37 PM »
Visnitz actually claimed to their buyers 5 years ago that they will do a ped-bridge but the cost was over $1m

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #631 on: May 10, 2023, 08:43:14 PM »
Visnitz actually claimed to their buyers 5 years ago that they will do a ped-bridge but the cost was over $1m
Only 1M?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #632 on: May 10, 2023, 08:53:07 PM »
Visnitz actually claimed to their buyers 5 years ago that they will do a ped-bridge but the cost was over $1m
Takes what, one day on GoFundMe to raise this for a family in need?
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #633 on: May 10, 2023, 08:55:27 PM »
Takes what, one day on GoFundMe to raise this for a family in need?
Govt approval, who will maintain


And this will solve the problem? A reckless driver will be a killer no matter what. If not here then somewhere else

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #634 on: May 10, 2023, 09:01:10 PM »
Hatzolah of BP launched this ad campaign today. BP is built for pedestrians, yet (2) reckless driver(s) killed someone that wasn't even crossing (and they walked free). So the solution is not a ped-bridge



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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #635 on: May 10, 2023, 09:43:17 PM »
Takes what, one day on GoFundMe to raise this for a family in need?
It’s easier to raise money for an ambulance than a bridge.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #636 on: May 10, 2023, 09:47:35 PM »
Hatzolah of BP launched this ad campaign today. BP is built for pedestrians, yet (2) reckless driver(s) killed someone that wasn't even crossing (and they walked free). So the solution is not a ped-bridge


What does that show?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #637 on: May 10, 2023, 10:06:57 PM »
In the case of major roads, the county or state controls most of them and don't make changes, probably due to prohibitive costs

In the case of the roads the township controls, they don't add sidewalks. And in cases of new development, they selectively ignore sidewalk requirements for special interests. But as long as we can blame the big bad county and state for not adding sidewalks in unusual places like the side of 4 lane highways it should make us all happy.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #638 on: May 10, 2023, 10:37:15 PM »
In the case of the roads the township controls, they don't add sidewalks. And in cases of new development, they selectively ignore sidewalk requirements for special interests. But as long as we can blame the big bad county and state for not adding sidewalks in unusual places like the side of 4 lane highways it should make us all happy.
How many streets if any did they add sidewalks to over the last 3 years? What was the last development built without sidewalks?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #639 on: May 10, 2023, 11:01:09 PM »
How many streets if any did they add sidewalks to over the last 3 years?

They didn't add enough sidewalks, and it's not a priority at all for the township. Seems like you're not arguing about that.

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What was the last development built without sidewalks?

I don't follow the meetings closely anymore, but there was an apartment building approved on Ocean ave a couple years ago where they allowed no sidewalk on one side. That was particularly egregious to me. And 6 houses recently built near me bordering route 9, they destroyed the sidewalk on route 9 and made it unusable but never fixed it. Is that the state's fault?
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