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Author Topic: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?  (Read 31410 times)

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #75 on: January 01, 2018, 02:34:32 PM »
Itís not in the highest level of tzinus. Period
  In  the highest level of tzinus woman are almost never supposed to leave their house. Society has changed and itís almost not possible nowadays. Iím litvish and wasnít brought up that way to actually practice in this way but ďI hear it ď.
 
Is it tznius to have to go with a cab driver to buy groceries or go to the doctor?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #76 on: January 01, 2018, 02:35:30 PM »
So it's more tznius to walk to the grocery store than drive? And why would that be?
Woman shouldnít be going to be grocery either in the ultimate world of tzinus. Even the chasidim who forbid the woman from driving have to make some line.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #77 on: January 01, 2018, 02:36:33 PM »
Source?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #78 on: January 01, 2018, 02:37:17 PM »
Is it tznius to have to go with a cab driver to buy groceries or go to the doctor?
many frum communities  have cabs where you can request a female driver
 eta even in the non jewish world 
there is a large demand for uber and lyft to have that option simply for safety purposes
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #79 on: January 01, 2018, 02:37:58 PM »
Woman shouldnít be going to be grocery either in the ultimate world of tzinus. Even the chasidim who forbid the woman from driving have to make some line.

That's an entire other issue, and it dodges question.

Is it OK for a woman to walk her kids to the park? Why is walking better than driving?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #80 on: January 01, 2018, 02:37:59 PM »
Many. They do let women work these days. Many women have jobs out of the house.  Like many things, this idea is somehow 'better' and more from and to change it would somehow be going down a madrega in their eyes.
True.

But the chassidishe world doesn't change unless it's a must. Women work because they need to bring food on the table
Where does the concept of a "Jewish mother" being told to sit at home and cook dinner because that's their "role" come from?
It's not that.
My understanding is that the perception is that a women that drives becomes a different women.

It's too bad we'll never hear in this thread from the people whose wives have been forbidden to drive...

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #81 on: January 01, 2018, 02:38:37 PM »
Woman shouldnít be going to be grocery either in the ultimate world of tzinus. Even the chasidim who forbid the woman from driving have to make some line.
I could hear not having them go to the grocery over not having them drive. Once you have them going shopping and whatnot, having them drive themselves in private without a random guy in the car would make more sense from a tznius perspective, no?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #82 on: January 01, 2018, 02:39:27 PM »
כל כבודה בת מלך פנימה means exactly that
Umm it doesn't translate as that. What's the source that it means that?
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #83 on: January 01, 2018, 02:39:59 PM »
Exactly the point I can't understand. And the taxi issue as well. I have no understanding of this policy
The taxi issue comes with serious issues....and halachacly ( which every thread becomes)is unacceptable in way too many instances.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #84 on: January 01, 2018, 02:41:02 PM »
When will we finally admit that we live in communities that are  misogynistic and create rules and regulations that make our lives infinitely more complicated than they should be.
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #85 on: January 01, 2018, 02:43:10 PM »
Anyone know the sicha in winter תשנ"א regarding woman taking a taxi /driving?

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #86 on: January 01, 2018, 02:45:07 PM »
My cousin is a 5th grade Rebbe in a boys  Yeshiva and was told he had to stop riding his bike to school.

Ah. I love religion.
This has nothing to do with it. If my sons 5th grade rebbe came riding in on a bike I would think he was a nebach.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #87 on: January 01, 2018, 02:46:34 PM »
My feeling of yiddishkeit.
So go ruin the lives of thousands of people because of your dumb feeling. None of these people running these schools and making these gezeiros seem to have an inkling of Halacha, hashkafa, abd how leading a tzibbur works.

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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #88 on: January 01, 2018, 02:47:57 PM »
Umm it doesn't translate as that. What's the source that it means that?
i dont know the gemara off hand but thats definitely the way the gemara uses it
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Re: Why do some Jewish communities prohibit women from driving?
« Reply #89 on: January 01, 2018, 02:51:32 PM »
Is it tznius to have to go with a cab driver to buy groceries or go to the doctor?
Nobody will say that you canít go to a doctor. In the ultimate world of tzinus woman should not leave their home unless they must. Obviously thatís too hard to enforce such rules in any community so they made a black and white rule no driving.
 Iím not saying that I agree to this and I deff donít practice it but it makes sense.