Author Topic: El-al dropping UP, adding new seating options, and flying direct to San Fran!!!  (Read 5496 times)

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Can someone please combine the 2 threads?
Or at least rename one for the SFO route and the other for the changes on EU routes?
It's very annoying to have 2 threads discussing the exact same thing.
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For a long time a local Israeli community used to run http://sfotlv.org/ "SFO TLV in 14.5 Hours". Now its down, but it was about how profitable would be this route. We filled surveys and many companies confirmed that they would be interested. AFAIK they presented this to United, El-Al and Delta. El Al turned down because they didn't want to damage their LAX-TLV flight and Delta thought it would not be profitable.

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Some good info here with comments from an LY insider - http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1382639

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"This route is operated today by United, with 5 flights a week operated also by 787."

"with BOS & MIA opened just in the last few months. "

WTH?
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"This route is operated today by United, with 5 flights a week operated also by 787."

"with BOS & MIA opened just in the last few months. "

WTH?

Yeh OP is not the insider. User yochai has some good info. Says in the link to expect ORD to start, but probably not until 2020.

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Unless UA gets it first.
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I don't see how they can expect to get the business community without alliances.

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I don't see how they can expect to get the business community without alliances.

Would be great if they partner with AS.

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Would be great if they partner with AS.
Told that to the Matmid guy. They really need to focus on partnerships, revamp the points program, and then launch a good co-brand in the US.
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They're OK with codesharing with AA in Europe, but not in the states... They never really took B6 too far either.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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They're OK with codesharing with AA in Europe, but not in the states... They never really took B6 too far either.
I'm wondering why?
If it's a win-win for both sides then why hasn't El Al done so?

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Unless UA gets it first.
Again it's an aircraft issue. He said they would only do the route with a 788 as he claims there isn't enough demand for a 789. And according to that same source, the 788's are only starting to get delivered in the Q3 of 2019 (after receiving all the 789's)

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Would be great if they partner with AS.
Would still require separate awards for different metal.

They're OK with codesharing with AA in Europe, but not in the states... They never really took B6 too far either.
Can't redeem (not sure about earn) on codeshare, it's strictly LY metal.

I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Can't redeem (not sure about earn) on codeshare, it's strictly LY metal.
When flying AA on LY codeshare, you can credit the miles to Matmid. Not sure about B6.