Author Topic: El-al dropping UP, adding new seating options, and flying direct to San Fran!!!  (Read 5491 times)

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On a single award?

What about 2 partners?

Cannot combine 2 partners on single award, though you could combine AS with any single partner.

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Cannot combine 2 partners on single award, though you could combine AS with any single partner.
OK. Good to know. Is that true also about VX?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Is that true also about VX?

For flight on or after 04-25, yes.

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Everyone including Top Platinum members will have to pay for luggage on the new "lite" fares.
Gold members will have to pay to choose a seat on the new "lite" fares.
The UP flights will still operate from terminal 1 (no lounge access) even after it becomes regular ElAl.
Devaluation to the UP destinations.

https://www.elal.com/en/FrequentFlyer/Europe-Changes/Pages/default.aspx?utm_source=matmid&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=europechanges&utm_content=elaleng
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Well, they'll certainly be losing my business with these changes (and I'll be cancelling my Fly Card Premium).

150 points + $60 YQ + taxes for a 35 minute flight to Cyprus that Ryan Air sells for 10 euros all in?  And the same paid flight would only net you 10-20 points back? They're insane.

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El Al will also be changing their meal service (at least for European flights, not sure about long hauls).  They mention it in a few replies to post comments on their Israel Facebook page, but no real details are given.

Fortunately for all of you, I actually took part in their survey so here's the inside scoop (remember me down the road for the HT :-) ):

They're looking at two new options instead of the traditional "full meal":

1) A lunchbox concept - You get a box with a main course, beverage poured into a cup, side spread (humus, etc.), and very modest dessert.
2) Sandwich concept - Only a sandwich, personal beverage, and modest dessert (couple of cookies)

I was asked to choose between the options vs. a traditional meal - voted down the sandwich concept every time.  I had to pick between the two new options and went with the lunchbox.

This is yet another downgrade in my eyes.

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El Al will also be changing their meal service (at least for European flights, not sure about long hauls).  They mention it in a few replies to post comments on their Israel Facebook page, but no real details are given.

Fortunately for all of you, I actually took part in their survey so here's the inside scoop (remember me down the road for the HT :-) ):

They're looking at two new options instead of the traditional "full meal":

1) A lunchbox concept - You get a box with a main course, beverage poured into a cup, side spread (humus, etc.), and very modest dessert.
2) Sandwich concept - Only a sandwich, personal beverage, and modest dessert (couple of cookies)

I was asked to choose between the options vs. a traditional meal - voted down the sandwich concept every time.  I had to pick between the two new options and went with the lunchbox.

This is yet another downgrade in my eyes.
I think that is what they serve on UP Y+

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Well made video, though no passenger ever asked for these choices..

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Well made video, though no passenger ever asked for these choices..
LY stated objective is to be able to compete with  low-cost airlines. So if they will be lowering ticket prices materially I assume passengers would care. However I doubt this will happen

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LY stated objective is to be able to compete with  low-cost airlines. So if they will be lowering ticket prices materially I assume passengers would care. However I doubt this will happen
DDF policy to bash Elal, but they are not competing with LCC, they are competing with the legacy as well. Did I miss the news that LH killed their fare Families?

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So put a suboptimal plane on the route for a year.
Or keep following in UA footsteps and playing catch-up.

Looks like UA is ahead of the game and switching the SFO TLV route to a 77W starting May 2018.

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Looks like UA is ahead of the game and switching the SFO TLV route to a 77W starting May 2018.
Are they getting more deliveries, or will this be compromising on the EWR route?

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Looks like UA is ahead of the game and switching the SFO TLV route to a 77W starting May 2018.
As predicted :)
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As predicted :)
You predicted that they would change aircraft to the new Polaris seat before El Al starts the route?