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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2018, 01:07:44 PM »
this empirical observation
I doubt you're using "empirical" properly here.

CMIIW but I don't think "empirical observation" is the correct term for an observation that "there seem to be many more now."

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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2018, 01:08:06 PM »
Yes but by choice not forced.
Who's being forced?
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2018, 01:09:02 PM »
I doubt you're using "empirical" properly here.

CMIIW but I don't think "empirical observation" is the correct term for an observation that "there seem to be many more now."
Why are you casting English interpretation on regular english posts?
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2018, 01:12:53 PM »
Who's being forced?
Communities that won't take kids into school if the mother has hair?
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2018, 01:21:36 PM »
Communities that won't take kids into school if the mother has hair?
And you think that a majority of women in those communities feel forced?
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2018, 01:25:55 PM »
And you think that a majority of women in those communities feel forced?
Never said that, I don't have a clue.
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2018, 01:29:50 PM »
Porn.

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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2018, 01:30:05 PM »
Let me ask a crazy question. Is this so bad? What's more important, staying married or being happy? As Louis CK once said "no good marriage has ever ended in divorce."

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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2018, 01:30:24 PM »
Never said that, I don't have a clue.
Do you feel forced to grow a beard? Would you feel forced if you lived in a community that wouldn't accept your children if you "touched" your beard?
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 01:32:43 PM »
And you think that a majority of women in those communities feel forced?
This is such a loaded question. When you grow up with certain social norms and values driven into you by everyone around you, you come to think of your actions as voluntary, but are they? It's so complex. It's like the scientologists who willingly go in the "hole." If you ask them, they will tell you they are there voluntarily, but it's all brainwashed BS.

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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2018, 01:34:36 PM »
Let me ask a crazy question. Is this so bad? What's more important, staying married or being happy? As Louis CK once said "no good marriage has ever ended in divorce."

No, its not bad at all.

But I'm not sure why there isnt a broader discussion of this in general. I feel like theres discussion ad neausum about a shiddiuch crisis but not about a divorce endemic; and the focus on the former may be causing the latter. The question is if people are being pressured into marriages they should never be in, in the first place.
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2018, 01:34:47 PM »
Do you feel forced to grow a beard? Would you feel forced if you lived in a community that wouldn't accept your children if you "touched" your beard?
No.
Yes.
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2018, 01:35:51 PM »
Let me ask a crazy question. Is this so bad? What's more important, staying married or being happy? As Louis CK once said "no good marriage has ever ended in divorce."
So rephrase the ops question: "why are more people unhappy in their marriage?"

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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2018, 01:38:41 PM »
What's more important, staying married or being happy?
To the community it would be staying married.
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2018, 01:39:46 PM »
This is such a loaded question. When you grow up with certain social norms and values driven into you by everyone around you, you come to think of your actions as voluntary, but are they? It's so complex. It's like the scientologists who willingly go in the "hole." If you ask them, they will tell you they are there voluntarily, but it's all brainwashed BS.
SO all societal values are the result of "brainwashing"?

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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2018, 01:40:39 PM »
Let me ask a crazy question. Is this so bad? What's more important, staying married or being happy? As Louis CK once said "no good marriage has ever ended in divorce."
Divorces are actually a good thing when it has to be done. It's sad that there's so many marriages that fall through.

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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2018, 01:42:52 PM »
The question is if people are being pressured into marriages they should never be in, in the first place.
I am sure teens are more than capable to make this lifelong decision. Just remember you are not allowed to drink before, during or after the decision.
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2018, 01:44:22 PM »
I am sure teens are more than capable to make this lifelong decision. Just remember you are not allowed to drink before, during or after the decision.
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2018, 01:46:42 PM »
Not even a l'chaim? ;)
Use grape juice.  :P
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Re: Why is our divorce rate rising drastically?
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2018, 02:00:10 PM »
SO all societal values are the result of "brainwashing"?
If you internalize it to the point where you don't feel like you have a "choice" but to live a certain way then yes, to some extent...