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I was simply saying that based on the simple interpretation I don't think any gadol would do something like that.
Being that you’ve agreed to our theoretical case it should explain why this preconception is faulty. For all practical purposes the simple interpretation is that same situation that you conceded. He was terribly ill and this was the only cure they believed would work.

Next example? :)

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Being that you’ve agreed to our theoretical case it should explain why this preconception is faulty. For all practical purposes the simple interpretation is that same situation that you conceded. He was terribly ill and this was the only cure they believed would work.

Next example? :)
Before that, can you help me with my question?

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Before that, can you help me with my question?

Helping you figuring out your question?

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Before that, can you help me with my question?
Can you restate it? I’m getting confused.

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Not exactly the reason for the illness but the reason why clothes didn't cure that. כׇּל הַמְבַזֶּה אֶת הַבְּגָדִים, סוֹף אֵינוֹ נֶהֱנֶה מֵהֶם

Reb Yankele of Pshevorsk said an amazing vort. Chazal say כל האומר דוד חטא אינו אלא טועה. What's the ראיה to that? Since the clothes weren't warming him because he mistreated them, had the story with Bas Sheva be considered a sin, then after being pogem with such, Avishag wouldn't warm him either.
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Helping you figuring out your question?
No, the answer.
Can you restate it? I’m getting confused.
I'm assuming you'd agree with me that no gadol would ask his wife to warm him up.

My question is, why wouldn't they ask.

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No, the answer.I'm assuming you'd agree with me that no gadol would ask his wife to warm him up.

My question is, why wouldn't they ask.
Why wouldn't a godol snuggle with his wife?

Making a wife feel valued and essential to his wellbeing is a Torah value.
Having her feel attractive and desired is a Torah value.
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No, the answer.I'm assuming you'd agree with me that no gadol would ask his wife to warm him up.

My question is, why wouldn't they ask.
You assume very incorrectly. I do not agree at all.

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I'm assuming you'd agree with me that no gadol would ask his wife to warm him up.

As a gadol I can tell you that you’re wrong :P
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No, the answer.I'm assuming you'd agree with me that no gadol would ask his wife to warm him up.

My question is, why wouldn't they ask.
I don't recall who, but one of the Acharonim speaks about a husband and wife in the cold winter nights in a personal way.

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As a gadol I can tell you that you’re wrong :P

I forgot to advertise my kiddush this past Shabbos, but I haven't seen you anywhere near Merkaz Gutnik לקטנים ולגדולים, so I'm not sure what kind of a Godol you are.
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I don't recall who, but one of the Acharonim speaks about a husband and wife in the cold winter nights in a personal way.
The gemara discussed זמן שהגוף נהנה מהגוף
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Why wouldn't a godol snuggle with his wife?

Making a wife feel valued and essential to his wellbeing is a Torah value.
Having her feel attractive and desired is a Torah value.
To the contrary, in this situation she can feel that the gadol is using her only for his benefit of staying warm. A gadol would never risk hurting someone's feelings.

There are other ways to make your wife feel loved and special.

ETA: I think we might be talking about two different scenarios. I'm talking about in a case where the wife knows the only reason is because he's cold.
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You assume very incorrectly. I do not agree at all.
Ok I'm surprised. I guess I'll have to put together the list

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Meanwhile, this seems to be a thread about the dangers of going overboard with chumras
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Meanwhile, this seems to be a thread about the dangers of going overboard with chumras
It should've been moved a while ago to the Torah and hashkafa thread

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Lastly, when it comes to how I would like to see my kids grow up, I would want my kids to choose their own path, and not do anything just because I do it. I want them to live their lives by conscious choice (and while I hope they make the same choices I made, or even better ones, it is most important to me that it will all be conscious choices).

I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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