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Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« on: January 24, 2018, 04:22:06 PM »
Yesterday evening I boarded a plane from Florida to Newark that was set to leave at the scheduled departure time. Everyone boarded the plane, but six people were stuck in the center aisle without a seat. The stewardesses were confounded and double checked that they didn't over-book. Finally, they discovered someone had seated their one year old in an unauthorized seat and were able to free one seat. The plane was loaded with families and children. The pilot then made an announcement that anyone who didn't purchase a seat for their children under two, must put their children on their lap. Nothing happened. Now the crew had to go down the plane row by row until they discovered the remaining five offenders. Sadly, all the perpetrators of this tremendous  chillul Hashem were all frum families. The plane took off 40 minutes late as a result. People, please put an end to this madness and realize that we must always strive to act in the highest moral possible, even if it means we will be inconvenienced.

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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2018, 04:23:28 PM »
Oy. Stories like this make me cringe.
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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2018, 04:25:48 PM »
I can't fathom what might have been going through those people's minds.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2018, 04:28:02 PM »
Oy. Stories like this make me cringe.

True. Though did this really delay the flight 37 minutes? It seems the inbound aircraft landed 26 minutes late from BUF.

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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2018, 04:41:07 PM »
I can't fathom what might have been going through those people's minds.
1. I can get the seat for free.
2. Let someone else hold their kid for 3 hours until they come and force me.

But I've long been an advocate for: https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/advice/todays-aeroflot-flight-incident-shows-why-we-buy-a-seat-for-our-kids/
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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2018, 04:42:44 PM »
@Yaalili

Here is the email from Southwest:

Hello from Southwest Airlines:
 
This is a flight status change regarding your trip.

The estimated departure time for Flight 5389 on January 23 from FLL has changed to 8:05PM. We encourage you to check Flight Status at www.southwest.com/status or the SWA Mobile App.
 
Thank you for flying Southwest Airlines.

The plane was supposed to take off at 7:35 and left at 8:10 instead.  You are probably talking about a different flight.

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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2018, 04:43:17 PM »
1. I can get the seat for free.
2. Let someone else hold their kid for 3 hours until they come and force me.

But I've long been an advocate for: https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/advice/todays-aeroflot-flight-incident-shows-why-we-buy-a-seat-for-our-kids/
But in this case it was obvious that there weren't enough seats available (based on story as described). So #2 makes no sense, but then again, many times people make no sense.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2018, 04:45:43 PM »
The plane was supposed to take off at 7:35 and left at 8:10 instead.  You are probably talking about a different flight.

I am not talking about a different flight. The plane left 37 minutes late, as the inbound flight #9011 was 26 minutes late in landing from Buffalo.

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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2018, 04:47:25 PM »
But in this case it was obvious that there weren't enough seats available (based on story as described). So #2 makes no sense, but then again, many times people make no sense.
Maybe they were embarrassed to raise their hands at that point?
Or maybe they still hoped their would be enough for their kid if the crew asked others?
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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2018, 05:04:57 PM »
Except when https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/07/06/mom-has-carry-boy-flight-after-united-takes-his-seat-and-resells/454585001/

That wasn't an infant, that was a 2 year old. Either way, the mother should have asked for a manager or gate agent. Never happened to me in over 100 flights with kids.
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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 05:43:26 PM »
new account to post the story... whats up with that?

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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2018, 05:46:05 PM »
new account to post the story...
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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2018, 07:25:21 PM »
new account to post the story... whats up with that?

He opened it in September 2014...
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Re: Colossal Chillul Hashem on Southwest Flight to Newark
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2018, 07:27:40 PM »


over 100 flights with kids.
Hang on, have Rafi/Talia really been on 100+ flights?
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